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[MPwannadecentincome]

I'd imagine their budget for the year is set to x bodies for 220 (or whatever) days a year. No hols and they blow their budget.

This is correct and I can say so as one of those who has to put the spreadsheets together for new projects and calculating resource costs for the project budget submission.

[LondonManc]

Funnily enough mine does too but they ignore it because it suits them to usually.

More likely your day rate doesn't make much of a dent. HTHBIDI

[northernladuk]

Funnily enough mine does too but they ignore it because it suits them to usually.

So for once the client has gone above an beyond to allow you to get more money than you agreed when you signed the contract and in the midst of a global pandemic they've reverted back to what the contract says and still you feel the need to complain about it......

Mod, nothing professional here as usual. Can we move to general please?

[psychocandy]

Nah, sorry Greg, that's weak as ****. Imagine if somebody comes to me and says "Can you make 100 widgets and deliver them by X Date" and I agree, then have to go back and renegotiate to 80 widgest due to staff absence. It's perfectly acceptable to rework things, go back and say "Oh, we can actually deliver the 100 if you'd like". It's also acceptable for them to say "Oh, nah, 80 is fine"

Psycho informed his client that he wasn't available - he's now unexpectedly available and offered up his services. They declined, both are fine.

He could at least create a sense of urgency for why he's needed and then advise the client that he's cancelled his time off to accommodate the client's needs.

I mean, he *could*. It would be pathetically transparent and make him look a tit, but sure he *could*.

Posts like yours are what make people come here, shake their head and leave. Exactly the same scenario plays out in business to business consulting relationships all the time - client wants x person for y time. Consultancy originally says no, then something changes and they go back and offer it up - getting billing days is business.

Yep. exactly....

[psychocandy]

I seem to remember a number of my contracts have stipulated a maximum number of billing days in a period so those thst didn't take holidays ended up having a long Xmas break. Never really asked why this is as I'd never normally get near it as I like my time off.

I'd imagine their budget for the year is set to x bodies for 220 (or whatever) days a year. No hols and they blow their budget.

Funnily enough mine does too but they ignore it because it suits them to usually.

[psychocandy]

And it's all about you isn't it?

Definitely is

[Old Greg]

You'd look less foolish in front of everybody if you just admitted that you were wrong. But that's up to you, of course - everybody else can read the thread and make up their own mind.

Whatevs.

[vwdan]

Bless.

You'd look less foolish in front of everybody if you just admitted that you were wrong. But that's up to you, of course - everybody else can read the thread and make up their own mind.

[Old Greg]

Here yes, but it's kind of what he does.



Why do people always resort to this when they've got little more to say? Coming from you, it's particularly ironic.

Bless.

[vwdan]

But PC is whining about it.

Here yes, but it's kind of what he does.

Now take a chill pill.

Why do people always resort to this when they've got little more to say? Coming from you, it's particularly ironic.

[Old Greg]

Nah, sorry Greg, that's weak as ****. Imagine if somebody comes to me and says "Can you make 100 widgets and deliver them by X Date" and I agree, then have to go back and renegotiate to 80 widgest due to staff absence. It's perfectly acceptable to rework things, go back and say "Oh, we can actually deliver the 100 if you'd like". It's also acceptable for them to say "Oh, nah, 80 is fine"

Psycho informed his client that he wasn't available - he's now unexpectedly available and offered up his services. They declined, both are fine.



I mean, he *could*. It would be pathetically transparent and make him look a tit, but sure he *could*.

Posts like yours are what make people come here, shake their head and leave. Exactly the same scenario plays out in business to business consulting relationships all the time - client wants x person for y time. Consultancy originally says no, then something changes and they go back and offer it up - getting billing days is business.

But PC is whining about it.

Now take a chill pill.

[vwdan]

Because he is meant to be a commercial supplier in a business relationship. Why should the client, who may have less work to do and less ash available, accommodate a supplier who has now decided that he wants to turn up and work some billable days, where previously there was no need for that supplier to work? It's a real permitractor view of 'Oh I've cancelled my holidays so I don't want to use up my leave'.

Nah, sorry Greg, that's weak as ****. Imagine if somebody comes to me and says "Can you make 100 widgets and deliver them by X Date" and I agree, then have to go back and renegotiate to 80 widgest due to staff absence. It's perfectly acceptable to rework things, go back and say "Oh, we can actually deliver the 100 if you'd like". It's also acceptable for them to say "Oh, nah, 80 is fine"

Psycho informed his client that he wasn't available - he's now unexpectedly available and offered up his services. They declined, both are fine.

He could at least create a sense of urgency for why he's needed and then advise the client that he's cancelled his time off to accommodate the client's needs.

I mean, he *could*. It would be pathetically transparent and make him look a tit, but sure he *could*.

Posts like yours are what make people come here, shake their head and leave. Exactly the same scenario plays out in business to business consulting relationships all the time - client wants x person for y time. Consultancy originally says no, then something changes and they go back and offer it up - getting billing days is business.

[Old Greg]

Yes. Why would he give a tulip about anybody else, when ensuring cashflow for his business and therefore food on the table?

It doesn't mean being a nob, but when it comes to business, I only care about my own. What other people do/negotiate/get paid/whatever is their problem, I do what I need to do.

Because he is meant to be a commercial supplier in a business relationship. Why should the client, who may have less work to do and less ash available, accommodate a supplier who has now decided that he wants to turn up and work some billable days, where previously there was no need for that supplier to work? It's a real permitractor view of 'Oh I've cancelled my holidays so I don't want to use up my leave'. He could at least create a sense of urgency for why he's needed and then advise the client that he's cancelled his time off to accommodate the client's needs.

[northernladyuk]

I'm not a toilet trader but... He should start the statement like racists do when they don't want to appear racist but are going say something racist....

I not a complainer but....

FTFY

[northernladuk]

About that...

He should start the statement like racists do when they don't want to appear racist but are going say something racist....

I not a complainer but....