Reply to: European Job ads - "Must have a EU-27 citizenship" - denied?

[mos]

UK should do the same in reverse MUST have UK citizenship as surely if EU can openly do this it cannot be illegal to discriminate in the UK can it!

Sooner must have a Commonwealth country citizenship. And as E8 citizen I can testify that its effectively happening since at least 2016, when my career went down the drain.
I also observed that the biggest racist bullies I ever came across working in UK are now contracting in Netherlands and Belgium, while I am being turned down even for jobs in my own country.

[TupNorth]

Furthermore, if you are working remotely, then you don't need a work permit in Switzerland at all.

Yes I have been working that way for Swiss clients for quite a few years now.

[NotAllThere]

So if I supply services remotely from the UK to a Swiss company will this require a work permit post December? I also have dual nationality UK/Irish inc passport which I understand would make me a EU citizen also?

Furthermore, if you are working remotely, then you don't need a work permit in Switzerland at all.

[RasputinDude]

Soon they will start to send the British back.

Germany has specifically said that they are not going to do that.

[NotAllThere]

So if I supply services remotely from the UK to a Swiss company will this require a work permit post December? I also have dual nationality UK/Irish inc passport which I understand would make me a EU citizen also?

It you have an Irish (or other EU) passport, you still need a work permit to work in Switzerland - but you get one automatically. There is no quota, they're issued on application. You go to the local council offices with your contract, complete the paperwork, pay some money and you're done.

[TupNorth]

I'm currently working in Switzerland, most agencies that contact me are not Swiss, and have very little knowledge of Swiss regulations.

As stated by NotAllThere, Switzerland was the first country to sign an agreement with the UK. My understanding is everything will basically be the same as it was before.

So if I supply services remotely from the UK to a Swiss company will this require a work permit post December? I also have dual nationality UK/Irish inc passport which I understand would make me a EU citizen also?

[thelastrosbif]

I'm currently working in Switzerland, most agencies that contact me are not Swiss, and have very little knowledge of Swiss regulations.

As stated by NotAllThere, Switzerland was the first country to sign an agreement with the UK. My understanding is everything will basically be the same as it was before.

This is all good news to hear

[reddog]

I'm currently working in Switzerland, most agencies that contact me are not Swiss, and have very little knowledge of Swiss regulations.

As stated by NotAllThere, Switzerland was the first country to sign an agreement with the UK. My understanding is everything will basically be the same as it was before.

[darmstadt]

Anybody UK folk looking at working in Switzerland, Luxembourg etc seeing this stuff?

Would you be applying anyway under the understanding that you are "in theory" still under the same rights until December 2020, or am I deluding myself and the Europeans are basically going to shun us until we hand over some fish or something...?

They've been doing this in Germany for years, nothing new although I suspect with the new Fachkräfteeinwanderungsgesetzes that is to come into effect shortly ther might be some changes

[NotAllThere]

I would’ve thought that too, but just note they are specifically writing now “EU-27” and not “permitted to work in the EU” or something similar. It’s the specificity of the thing that seems a bit of a technical f-off from our mountain friends. And yes strangely these were for Swiss jobs regardless of the illogic of it...

I'd suspect that it isn't the Swiss clients, nor even a Swiss agency. Just some dumb agency or agencies who are lazy. Switzerland has committed to 3500 work-permits, post brexit, to be reserved for British people wishing to work here, so it's really unlikely it's the Swiss telling you to get stuffed.

[thelastrosbif]

That's what you get for voting Brexit. No sympathy here...

You really think a man who calls himself “rosbif” would’ve voted leave ? I’m an innocent victim!!

[thelastrosbif]

These are job ads. It's recruitment speak for "we'll only offer clients people who definitely won't need work permits".

It would be odd to see an EU-27 citizenship requirement in an advert for a Swiss job, since Switzerland isn't in the EU.

I would’ve thought that too, but just note they are specifically writing now “EU-27” and not “permitted to work in the EU” or something similar. It’s the specificity of the thing that seems a bit of a technical f-off from our mountain friends. And yes strangely these were for Swiss jobs regardless of the illogic of it...

[skysies]

That's what you get for voting Brexit. No sympathy here...

[uk contractor]

You can discriminate in the UK if you don't get caught. Women and ethic minorities suffer from this.

White caucasian do as well I can confirm from 1st hand experience of being on the receiving end of such treatment !

[NotAllThere]

These are job ads. It's recruitment speak for "we'll only offer clients people who definitely won't need work permits".

It would be odd to see an EU-27 citizenship requirement in an advert for a Swiss job, since Switzerland isn't in the EU.