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Previously on "Will more jobs be outsourced to India after Rishi Sunak is the Chancellor?"

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  • elsergiovolador
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    Check out how many people cry in the comments:

    Furlough cash for Rishi Sunak’s family firm | News | The Sunday Times

    How they dared to point such thing out! Chancellor is giving free money and everyone should shut up!

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  • elsergiovolador
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    Very intriguing is the fact that he only mentioned the word IR35 once.

    Search for ir35 speaker:Rishi Sunak - TheyWorkForYou

    Maybe he knows he needs to keep low profile when it comes to this and it was just a slip.

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  • elsergiovolador
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    Originally posted by Lance View Post
    It’s quite vague though.

    ‘Might be thought’ and ‘close family’ are not well defined.
    Why not put that complaint in? There are no men in suits to come get you and maybe Rishi will get a slap on the wrists.
    That's very reassuring.

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  • Lance
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    It’s quite vague though.

    ‘Might be thought’ and ‘close family’ are not well defined.
    Why not put that complaint in? There are no men in suits to come get you and maybe Rishi will get a slap on the wrists.

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  • elsergiovolador
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    Originally posted by Lance View Post
    seeing as you'd already found them I didn't see the point in trawling myself. You're the one who wants to know why.
    I'm not doing the digging for you, just answering this question.


    An MP doesn't have to disclose something an in-law has an interest in.

    The ministerial code states: "Ministers must provide a full list in writing of all interests which might be thought to give rise to a conflict. The list should also cover interests of the minister's spouse or partner and close family which might be thought to give rise to a conflict."

    Similar things occured in the past (apologies for the source):

    Minister failed to register brother-in-law's firm under his jurisdiction | Politics | The Guardian

    Minister would have to recluse him or herself from the areas where the may be a conflict:

    The justice minister, Jonathan Djanogly, has been stripped of his responsibility to regulate firms that "ambulance chase" the public following a Guardian investigation that revealed how he and his family could profit from controversial changes to legal aid he was piloting in parliament.

    (apologies for the source again) Justice minister stripped of powers | Politics | The Guardian

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  • Lance
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    Originally posted by elsergiovolador View Post
    I understand it is too difficult to open the document and see for yourself.
    seeing as you'd already found them I didn't see the point in trawling myself. You're the one who wants to know why.
    I'm not doing the digging for you, just answering this question.
    Originally posted by elsergiovolador View Post
    Do we know why this is not listed here

    https://assets.publishing.service.go...rests_list.pdf

    Other MPs disclose what their in-laws are up to...
    An MP doesn't have to disclose something an in-law has an interest in.

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  • Lance
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    Originally posted by elsergiovolador View Post
    I understand it is too difficult to open the document and see for yourself.

    There you go:
    both of those are where his wife has an interest. That is why he is declaring it.

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  • elsergiovolador
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    I understand it is too difficult to open the document and see for yourself.

    There you go:

    Mr Rees-Mogg’s wife and mother-in-law are both
    beneficiaries and trustees of a discretionary trust. Mr
    Rees-Mogg’s wife is a director and secretary of
    Saliston Ltd.

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  • Lance
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    Originally posted by elsergiovolador View Post
    It doesn't matter whether they have interest or not, it matters whether the public perceives they have interest.

    If you read the document I posted earlier, you would notice that some MPs do post what their in-law are up to even if that is not related to their job.
    What other MP discloses their in-laws business that they have no direct interest in?


    this is like pulling teeth. What is it about my question that causes you not to answer?
    If you don't know then say so. If you do know then please answer.

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  • elsergiovolador
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    Originally posted by Lance View Post
    What other MP discloses their in-laws business that they have no direct interest in?
    It doesn't matter whether they have interest or not, it matters whether the public perceives they have interest.

    If you read the document I posted earlier, you would notice that some MPs do post what their in-law are up to even if that is not related to their job.

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  • Lance
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    Originally posted by elsergiovolador View Post
    Such complaint to House of Commons must be made by a member of public or an MP and person complaining must disclose their full name and address.

    I am guessing that nobody complained, because they are too afraid of being visited by men in suits.
    What other MP discloses their in-laws business that they have no direct interest in?

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  • elsergiovolador
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    Such complaint to House of Commons must be made by a member of public or an MP and person complaining must disclose their full name and address.

    I am guessing that nobody complained, because they are too afraid of being visited by men in suits.

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  • elsergiovolador
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    Originally posted by Lance View Post
    What other MP discloses their in-laws business that they have no direct interest in?
    It doesn't matter if he personally thinks he has no interest in as he could be unconsciously biased anyway. It is important that the public can see this as a conflict of interest and therefore he should have declared it.

    This could potentially be reported to House of Commons as a breach of conduct and it will be up to them to investigate.

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  • Lance
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    Originally posted by elsergiovolador View Post
    "The List sets out interests currently held by Ministers, or their close family members, which
    are additional to those already disclosed in the Parliamentary Registers and which are, or
    might reasonably be perceived to be, directly relevant to a Minister’s ministerial
    responsibilities."

    It's what public sees. Trying to push the IR35 that is favourable to large outsourcing companies which one of them is in the family might reasonably be perceived to be directly relevant.
    What other MP discloses their in-laws business that they have no direct interest in?

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  • elsergiovolador
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    Originally posted by Lance View Post
    Because he doesn’t need to.....

    What other MP discloses their in-laws business that they have no direct interest in?
    "The List sets out interests currently held by Ministers, or their close family members, which
    are additional to those already disclosed in the Parliamentary Registers and which are, or
    might reasonably be perceived to be, directly relevant to a Minister’s ministerial
    responsibilities."

    It's what public sees. Trying to push the IR35 that is favourable to large outsourcing companies which one of them is in the family might reasonably be perceived to be directly relevant.

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