Originally posted by JoJoGabor
View Post
- Visitors can check out the Forum FAQ by clicking this link. You have to register before you can post: click the REGISTER link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. View our Forum Privacy Policy.
- Want to receive the latest contracting news and advice straight to your inbox? Sign up to the ContractorUK newsletter here. Every sign up will also be entered into a draw to WIN £100 Amazon vouchers!
Collapse
You are not logged in or you do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons:
- You are not logged in. If you are already registered, fill in the form below to log in, or follow the "Sign Up" link to register a new account.
- You may not have sufficient privileges to access this page. Are you trying to edit someone else's post, access administrative features or some other privileged system?
- If you are trying to post, the administrator may have disabled your account, or it may be awaiting activation.
Logging in...
Previously on "We can't do that rate, we put a higher one on the boards so people apply."
Collapse
-
Well the last two roles I've had I've managed to negotiate a higher rate than was agreed before the interview so you can always talk it up later. Unless you're terrible at the interview of course
Leave a comment:
-
Originally posted by Mscott View PostSo just got off the phone with another recruiter from Nigel Frank, interesting job, decent chat, recruiter talking at the speed of light trying to oversell the job and listen to keywords. Nothing too bad here, I get a lot of them have no idea of the technical side of things.
qh
Leave a comment:
-
Originally posted by billybiro View PostIf they throw enough sh!t at the wall, eventually, some is bound to stick. This is standard recruiter practice. In fact, the entire industry is built upon this exact business model.
Leave a comment:
-
Originally posted by Eirikur View PostMust have had at least 400 calls form them over the past 10 years,Originally posted by billybiro View PostIf they throw enough sh!t at the wall, eventually, some is bound to stick. This is standard recruiter practice. In fact, the entire industry is built upon this exact business model.
Leave a comment:
-
Originally posted by Mscott View PostSo just got off the phone with another recruiter from Nigel Frank, interesting job, decent chat, recruiter talking at the speed of light trying to oversell the job and listen to keywords. Nothing too bad here, I get a lot of them have no idea of the technical side of things.
Then the subject of rate comes up, I mention I'll need X as they say there's some additional expenses up and he responds with the fact they can't even do Y unless they push the client hard (which is the minimum they put on the boards) with the logic of 'If we'd put the actual rate on, no-one would apply, would they, everyone does it' when I asked him what he thought would happen when we got to that phase he said that at some point they'll get someone that agrees to it.
Is it me or are recruiters getting worse and more ridiculous with their 'plans' to gain contractors? Ignoring the standard 'job openings' that have nothing in common with my resume or profile this basically lying and false advertising is just a massive time waster for both parties, what can they possibly get out of this other than undercharging contractors who know as little of what they're doing as they do?
Leave a comment:
-
Nigel Frank and their sister company Mason Frank are the biggest wasters of time. Must have had at least 400 calls form them over the past 10 years, each of them complete time wasters, blocked several of their numbers and they still manage to get through,
Leave a comment:
-
Originally posted by Mscott View PostSo just got off the phone with another recruiter from Nigel Frank, interesting job, decent chat, recruiter talking at the speed of light trying to oversell the job and listen to keywords. Nothing too bad here, I get a lot of them have no idea of the technical side of things.
Then the subject of rate comes up, I mention I'll need X as they say there's some additional expenses up and he responds with the fact they can't even do Y unless they push the client hard (which is the minimum they put on the boards) with the logic of 'If we'd put the actual rate on, no-one would apply, would they, everyone does it' when I asked him what he thought would happen when we got to that phase he said that at some point they'll get someone that agrees to it.
Is it me or are recruiters getting worse and more ridiculous with their 'plans' to gain contractors? Ignoring the standard 'job openings' that have nothing in common with my resume or profile this basically lying and false advertising is just a massive time waster for both parties, what can they possibly get out of this other than undercharging contractors who know as little of what they're doing as they do?
Leave a comment:
-
We can't do that rate, we put a higher one on the boards so people apply.
So just got off the phone with another recruiter from Nigel Frank, interesting job, decent chat, recruiter talking at the speed of light trying to oversell the job and listen to keywords. Nothing too bad here, I get a lot of them have no idea of the technical side of things.
Then the subject of rate comes up, I mention I'll need X as they say there's some additional expenses up and he responds with the fact they can't even do Y unless they push the client hard (which is the minimum they put on the boards) with the logic of 'If we'd put the actual rate on, no-one would apply, would they, everyone does it' when I asked him what he thought would happen when we got to that phase he said that at some point they'll get someone that agrees to it.
Is it me or are recruiters getting worse and more ridiculous with their 'plans' to gain contractors? Ignoring the standard 'job openings' that have nothing in common with my resume or profile this basically lying and false advertising is just a massive time waster for both parties, what can they possibly get out of this other than undercharging contractors who know as little of what they're doing as they do?Tags: None
- Home
- News & Features
- First Timers
- IR35 / S660 / BN66
- Employee Benefit Trusts
- Agency Workers Regulations
- MSC Legislation
- Limited Companies
- Dividends
- Umbrella Company
- VAT / Flat Rate VAT
- Job News & Guides
- Money News & Guides
- Guide to Contracts
- Successful Contracting
- Contracting Overseas
- Contractor Calculators
- MVL
- Contractor Expenses
Advertisers
Contractor Services
CUK News
- Streamline Your Retirement with iSIPP: A Solution for Contractor Pensions Sep 1 09:13
- Making the most of pension lump sums: overview for contractors Sep 1 08:36
- Umbrella company tribunal cases are opening up; are your wages subject to unlawful deductions, too? Aug 31 08:38
- Contractors, relabelling 'labour' as 'services' to appear 'fully contracted out' won't dupe IR35 inspectors Aug 31 08:30
- How often does HMRC check tax returns? Aug 30 08:27
- Work-life balance as an IT contractor: 5 top tips from a tech recruiter Aug 30 08:20
- Autumn Statement 2023 tipped to prioritise mental health, in a boost for UK workplaces Aug 29 08:33
- Final reminder for contractors to respond to the umbrella consultation (closing today) Aug 29 08:09
- Top 5 most in demand cyber security contract roles Aug 25 08:38
- Changes to the right to request flexible working are incoming, but how will contractors be affected? Aug 24 08:25
Leave a comment: