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Previously on "Cheeky new little feature added in CWjobs and totaljobs"

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  • VAt Collect0r
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    Originally posted by MPwannadecentincome View Post

    If candidates disagree with the legal basis it can be challenged directly to the company or the ICO.

    The ICO is just another waste of time - good luck getting them to make any company or public body fulfill a subject access request if they don't want to.

    Lewisham Council has 19 SARs they have refused to fulfill under the Data Protection Act 1998 - the ICO sent them an enforcement notice in September 2018, which Lewisham simply ignored, and the SARs - some of them years old - are still unfulfilled.

    I asked a specialist legal chambers about the ICO - they said much the same thing, they will delay taking any action for as long as possible, and then do nothing that the company or public body can't simply ignore anyway.

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  • MPwannadecentincome
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    Originally posted by Agent View Post
    Before you start jumping to any legal proceedings, do you actually know what this shows the recruiter? It doesn't show anything other than the job title, location and date of application for the applied role. It doesn't give a link to said job, it doesn't show anything else that would be classed as personal data.

    It's actually a really useful feature as you can see what type of roles and locations are of interest to any particular candidate which helps to keep the pointless calls to a minimum. Essentially it's there to try and help recruiters match candidates to jobs, which if you're on a job board in the first place is kinda the point.

    It's been there for years.
    Who said anything about legal proceedings? Contacting that email address would simply be asking the Data Protection Officer a question.

    And yes ITS IS personal information, that data is tagged against my profile, therefore a specific legal basis needs to be stated in the privacy policy for why it is being passed on. If the legal basis is consent, then the tick cannot be prefilled. If candidates disagree with the legal basis it can be challenged directly to the company or the ICO.

    Whether it is "useful" or not is another matter.

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  • Agent
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    Originally posted by Whorty View Post
    Maybe I'm unique, but I don't tend to apply for jobs directly on job sites. You can normally see the contact at the agency, and then I will get their details, call the for a chat and decide if I want to apply, and potentially find out if they have any other roles that might be suitable.

    I find applying cold and nothing happens ... agents rarely used to get back. Now, I have a better success rate.

    May even contact via LinkedIn, rather than call, depending how I'm feeling that day.
    Yep, best approach by far I'd say.

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  • Whorty
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    Maybe I'm unique, but I don't tend to apply for jobs directly on job sites. You can normally see the contact at the agency, and then I will get their details, call the for a chat and decide if I want to apply, and potentially find out if they have any other roles that might be suitable.

    I find applying cold and nothing happens ... agents rarely used to get back. Now, I have a better success rate.

    May even contact via LinkedIn, rather than call, depending how I'm feeling that day.

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  • Eirikur
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    Originally posted by Agent View Post
    Before you start jumping to any legal proceedings, do you actually know what this shows the recruiter? It doesn't show anything other than the job title, location and date of application for the applied role. It doesn't give a link to said job, it doesn't show anything else that would be classed as personal data.

    It's actually a really useful feature as you can see what type of roles and locations are of interest to any particular candidate which helps to keep the pointless calls to a minimum. Essentially it's there to try and help recruiters match candidates to jobs, which if you're on a job board in the first place is kinda the point.

    It's been there for years.

    That's not the point
    it potentially weakens someones negotiation position, have I applied 50 times in the last month or only 3 (so am I desperate or not)
    Contractors are often not bound to one location like permies are, I may have applied three times in London but would also accept in Edinburgh if the the right contract with the right rate came up and now you wouldn't call me because you think I'm only looking for London
    It's good to see though that the rates of contracts applied for are not are not published as far as I can see from that screenshot which would have further weakened our negotiation position

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  • Agent
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    Originally posted by MPwannadecentincome View Post
    You can always ask dataprotectionofficerUK@stepstone.co.uk what is the legal basis for automatically ticking the box... I am too lazy to do it, so just unticked it and have told my friends the same.

    I did put a public post on linkedin to share the privacy concern.
    Before you start jumping to any legal proceedings, do you actually know what this shows the recruiter? It doesn't show anything other than the job title, location and date of application for the applied role. It doesn't give a link to said job, it doesn't show anything else that would be classed as personal data.

    It's actually a really useful feature as you can see what type of roles and locations are of interest to any particular candidate which helps to keep the pointless calls to a minimum. Essentially it's there to try and help recruiters match candidates to jobs, which if you're on a job board in the first place is kinda the point.

    It's been there for years.

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  • cojak
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    You know, I think that I might sticky this for a couple of weeks...

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  • SeekingIT
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    Nice One!!!

    Fiendishly sneaky, especially as pre-ticked.....Thanks

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  • MPwannadecentincome
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    You can always ask dataprotectionofficerUK@stepstone.co.uk what is the legal basis for automatically ticking the box... I am too lazy to do it, so just unticked it and have told my friends the same.

    I did put a public post on linkedin to share the privacy concern.
    Last edited by MPwannadecentincome; 17 May 2019, 16:37.

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  • jmo21
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    Originally posted by Eirikur View Post
    in the my profile visibility bit
    got it, ta, and unchecked!

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  • Old Greg
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    Originally posted by ladymuck View Post
    I haven't used either site for years. I will check if I still have a profile and delete it.
    Put in an SAR first.

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  • ladymuck
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    I haven't used either site for years. I will check if I still have a profile and delete it.

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  • unixman
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    Totaljobs won't let you save any details without confirming your "graduation year". ie. they want your age. A bit naughty.

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  • unixman
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    Thanks OP, box unticked. GDPR? We've never heard of it.

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  • Old Greg
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    Originally posted by Eirikur View Post
    On your settings page they've added a tick box with "show recruiters your application history" and it's ticked by default, would recommend to untick it as it is non of the pimps business.
    Ticked by default? I wonder what the Information Commissioner would make of that.

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