Reply to: client offers perm role

[l35kee]

It's not usually about saving money either. It's usually driven by the hiring manager envy. This is too why I became a contractor!

[truffy]

Got offered a permanent role after an initial project fairly recently, didn't take it but I thought it was because they liked the work so much, good to know that feeling it wasn't just that may have been on the money didn't realize it was so common that perm jobs were good for helping the company save money... always good to know.

[Cid]

Is it really true that contractors are only offered permie roles if they aren't any good?

I've known as few very good contractors offered permanent roles (and declined them) as the company has effectively had a probation period from the individual and is happy with their work.

No its not true...
NLUK is just being salty.

[mudskipper]

Worth repeating

[BR14]

Clients only tend to ask contractors to go perm when they spot someone that isn't very good. They assume the crap ones might be swayed with regular income more reflective of their skills rather than struggling contracting.

HTH

that must be terrible for you, being constantly badgered so

[Klodge]

Is it really true that contractors are only offered permie roles if they aren't any good?

I've known as few very good contractors offered permanent roles (and declined them) as the company has effectively had a probation period from the individual and is happy with their work.

[Cid]

Clients only tend to ask contractors to go perm when they spot someone that isn't very good. They assume the crap ones might be swayed with regular income more reflective of their skills rather than struggling contracting. No point asking the super good contractors because its obvious they are in demand would want far want too much.

HTH

[Hobosapien]

Nonsense.

A team leader on a project I was part of once had a quiet word asking if I was interested in going permie for a salary somewhat higher than the nearest comparable permie was on. I declined and later he went contracting.

Result: Contractors 2, Permies nil

[northernladuk]

Common occurrence. You've been there a month and they like you so someone is thinking "we can save £x if he goes perm".

Nearly every client I've been at has tried the permie lure. I ALWAYS say no. Some have asked because they've been told to ask me but they know I'm going to say no. Some are surprised when I politely decline and just don't get it.

Clients only tend to ask contractors to go perm when they spot someone that isn't very good. They assume the crap ones might be swayed with regular income more reflective of their skills rather than struggling contracting. No point asking the super good contractors because its obvious they are in demand would want far want too much.

HTH

[psychocandy]

Common occurrence. You've been there a month and they like you so someone is thinking "we can save £x if he goes perm".

Nearly every client I've been at has tried the permie lure. I ALWAYS say no. Some have asked because they've been told to ask me but they know I'm going to say no. Some are surprised when I politely decline and just don't get it.

[Cid]

Cheers for all the reply's....Even you NLUK...

I have spent the last month auditing the IT environment here and this week we had a couple of chaps over from the mother company (who have not had any direct involvement so far) to go over my findings.

Next week my proposal for a 12-24 month program will go before the board.

i suppose the first hurdle is to see if they are going to approve the program and make available the budget to do so, if not then there is no role either perm or contract.

[Hobosapien]

So they will give you a perm role with 6 months probation at half the money you're now on and then dispose of you at the end of the probation period, because there's "not enough work"

There could be a few games in play here. Another one is the client always wanted a permie and is baiting the hook with a short term contract to get potential applicants through the door.

Counter moves in this instance would be to say you'll think about it and decide by the end of the contract term, and if you move to accept the offer make sure the contract acted as the probation period.

The client has opened negotiations, so you are now free to make your terms known, just make sure you handle it better than the UK government has with the EU.

[Eirikur]

So they will give you a perm role with 6 months probation at half the money you're now on and then dispose of you at the end of the probation period, because there's "not enough work"

[NotAllThere]

RUN!

[Klodge]

Sit down, think, weigh up the differences and reply.

There isn't really much to go on from what you've posted....