Worried about new contract and references (Absent a lot for previous contract)

[vwdan]

Well the reference documents have come through and the authorisation mentions reason for leaving.

Do you mind if I ask how many contracts you've had? You seem a little bit green on this stuff.

Who are the reference documents from and what are they for exactly? Is this all pre or post contract? Your reasons for leaving are simply that the contract came to an end, like every other contractor out there.

These aren't permie references, now. Agencies dont' need client references, you can tell em to sod off or give them your old agency - you can explain that you're sure they wouldn't want other agencies calling *their* clients.

The only time clients normally *need* references is for security vetting, which will be limited to "Yeah, he worked here between x and y". And, again, you can normally use agencies just fine.

Most companies are rightly cautious about giving any information out that could ever come back to them - there's simply nothing in it for them.

In fact, now I think about it I've never given details for anybody whose name wasn't on the contract. Wouldn't even have contact details for many of them - who am I going to give for a short term project role where the team was dissolved after?

[password]

Well the reference documents have come through and the authorisation mentions reason for leaving.

[cosmic]

Ok. Shall I come clean in that case?

If I was certain it would become an issue then it would be better to get out in front of it.. but if I wasn't sure it would come up I could be exposing my self to downside risk.

I need to feel out my current client I think.

If I was going to address it. I think I would say to agent. "By the way, for what it's worth.... I was absent.... I was ill but recovered now"...?

I wouldn't say anything unless asked which they won't ask. If they do ask be honest and say you were I'll... you don't need to go further than that or explain yourself as it's a confidential matter between yourself and your company as you are employed by your company. The client doesn't need to or should know anything else

[password]

Just don't unless directly asked, in which case you explain that unfortunately you were ill.

Ok. Shall I come clean in that case?

If I was certain it would become an issue then it would be better to get out in front of it.. but if I wasn't sure it would come up I could be exposing my self to downside risk.

I need to feel out my current client I think.

If I was going to address it. I think I would say to agent. "By the way, for what it's worth.... I was absent.... I was ill but recovered now"...?

[vwdan]

I honestly didn't know how to address it in the interview or come clean etc. Basically this issue is that I was burnt out as I didn't look after myself and take appropriate breaks etc. I also have been to doc and had some medication etc.

How does one articulate all that at an interview. Especially in the case that it was burn out (mental health category) and we all know there is still stigma around that.

Just don't unless directly asked, in which case you explain that unfortunately you were ill.

[password]

If you have already secured the new contract (I.e. signed the paperwork and are on site), then it shouldn’t be a problem unless you make it one.
If you have only secured an interview or a verbal offer, that’s a different matter.

So, have you got the contract signed or not?
If you’ve already signed and they haven’t asked for references yet, then you are panicking over nothing.

So what I do have is verbal offer after interview and waiting on all the paper work to come through. Yes, I am panicking over possibly nothing at the moment. But this role is really interesting and, like I say, I just want to see if others have been in a similar setting / advice on what to potentially do, as these things generally move fast when they get going.

Use your previous agency as a reference.

That said, I think you've been a smidge naughty here - people tend to equate contract dates with actually working or, at least, being available to work. While strictly speaking you were "In contract", I think you're being dishonest by putting down dates where you were neither working nor available to do so.

Yes, fair. I have been a little and felt weird doing so. That said. I kind of panicked by these questions and just went along with what sounded best.

I honestly didn't know how to address it in the interview or come clean etc. Basically this issue is that I was burnt out as I didn't look after myself and take appropriate breaks etc. I also have been to doc and had some medication etc.

How does one articulate all that at an interview. Especially in the case that it was burn out (mental health category) and we all know there is still stigma around that.

I have no problems talking to anybody except "the business" about this. Mainly because if they are prejudiced then that may affect my ability to make a living.

If that makes sense? While this is neither hear nor there.. if you knew me personally you would know I am pretty honest and professional.

[vwdan]

Use your previous agency as a reference.

I have been absent at the tail end of the contract also (up to expiry).

That said, I think you've been a smidge naughty here - people tend to equate contract dates with actually working or, at least, being available to work. While strictly speaking you were "In contract", I think you're being dishonest by putting down dates where you were neither working nor available to do so.

[WTFH]

If you have already secured the new contract (I.e. signed the paperwork and are on site), then it shouldn’t be a problem unless you make it one.
If you have only secured an interview or a verbal offer, that’s a different matter.

So, have you got the contract signed or not?
If you’ve already signed and they haven’t asked for references yet, then you are panicking over nothing.


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[password]

Wouldn’t worry. But if asked, be honest.

Generally if they check references they will just be confirming start and end dates. Not your absence record.


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Sure, but what if the previous client specifies the last day I was in the office? :/

I have been absent at the tail end of the contract also (up to expiry).

[MrButton]

Wouldn’t worry. But if asked, be honest.

Generally if they check references they will just be confirming start and end dates. Not your absence record.


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[password]

Hello,

So I am just finishing up a contract now, which I have been absent from, for a very significant number of weeks during the contract.

It turns out I have been absent for the vast majority of the contract really, due to illness.

I have just secured a new contract and wondering about when it comes to the reference stage what the new agency / client will look for.

If they require a contract from previous client, I will ask previous for a reference but worried about what they will say etc. Technically, I have been contracted with them for a period of time and did good work there (when present) so that should be it really. It comes down to if they resent the absence and just mark me as a failure/bit flaky etc and hold it against me.


My biggest worry is that this reference might affect new role and ultimately result in client pulling out.

Has this happened to somebody before?

This is one of the perils of contracting.. if I was a permie in a place for a number of years this wouldn't even be an issue.

You guys might say I am jumping the gun but once the agency contact me this will all move very fast and I'm wondering how to act if this becomes an issue.

Thanks