try this
http://www.itjobswatch.co.uk/contrac...&id=0&lid=2600
click on permanent.
about 20 - 25K at a guess.
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Not sure if that's the exact wording you used on Jobserve - I'll continue on the basis that it is. Potential candidates are likely to want to know:
1) Where the job is, specifically - unlike an agency you have no reason to not disclose this.
2) What kind of application or applications they'll be working on, what industry your business lies in.
3) What role they'll play within the team (you say that they'll be working with you and your client, but not in what capacity).
4) How you can further their career (beyond simply giving them experience) - maybe tempt people with the prospect of training or something.
Also (I reiterate that I'm not sure if this is the wording you used on Jobserve), the language used comes across as somewhat layman-like. You probably want to aim for a more professional tone if you're looking for the right kind of people.
You might want to get somebody else in to write the ad for you. If not, make sure that you read your drafts of the ad not just from your perspective as a business, but from the perspective of potential candidates. It's a two-way street and there's potential for both business and employee to benefit greatly.Leave a comment:
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The skills I am looking for are...
vb.Net and SQL Server - at least 6 months
They would be working along side me for the next 6 months as well as a project team of my clients permie staff who are a decent sort and don't mind helping people out.
It is a fantastic opportunity some someone to get real-world business client facing development experience.Leave a comment:
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20k doesn't seem bad for a junior developer in your region. It all depends on what your definition of "junior developer" is. I've seen some Jobserve ads that define a junior developer as one having 3-4 years experience of .NET and all the associated technologies (eg SQL, XML...). If this is what you're looking for (and I suspect it is if the developer will be working alone), you've got pretty tough competition in the likes of blue chips who'll be able to provide better pay and benefits.
You might like to reproduce the Jobserve ad here so that anybody interested can take a look - it could just be down to the content and wording of the ad.Leave a comment:
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Sorry, but I am not trying to be cagey.
For the North East and the role the salary would be £19-20K.
As for the local paper, I was quoted £750 for the job advert and "take it or leave it" !!!Leave a comment:
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Cubix, you're currently being somewhat cagey about the whole concept of "Market Rate". If you don't know what renumeration you wish to offer candidates right now, at what point will you be armed with the information you need to make this decision?
I reckon you'll get considerably more interest if you're more up-front about the money you're wishing to pay. Candidates (especially those with currently marketable skills such as .NET) are unlikely to respond to any job ad that appears to hide the salary on offer, because more often than not, it's an indication the client wants a highly-skilled person and wants to pay peanuts for their skills.Leave a comment:
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If the business is worth getting off the ground then go out and get some VC.
When you offer a good rate you will get good people. Oh and why use Jobserve? Why not use your local newspaper to begin with?
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Originally posted by chicane
£175 would be the rate if I was subcontracting this piece of work, however I am trying to build up my business and looking to take on permie.
It is just such as hassle trying to recruit! Agencies look for at least 10% of salary and jobserve is £100 per 7 days. All very expensive for a young company trying to get off the ground
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"Market rates" vary widely ... I reckon you're looking at paying no less than £175/day if you're working directly with the contractor - and you won't get anybody very competent for that. £200-250 is more realistic.
I work directly with clients for around the £200-250 mark in .NET and other similar technologies. Wouldn't want to take on a VB.NET job tho - I only know the C# side of things.Leave a comment:
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The rate that gets applicants! I am perfectly serious, that is the very definition of the Market Rate. It is meaningless for me or anyone else to consider what the market rate is: it is the rate set by the market, the rate at which the supply of contractors (at that rate) equals the demand from clients (at that rate).Originally posted by boredsenseless
And I don't imagine for a moment that that is what jobserve ads mean by the phrase.Leave a comment:
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You could at least give him some idea of what you consider market rate to be for that role.Originally posted by expat
On a similar note does anyone else think that on jobserve when it says Market Rate it usually equates to poorly paid.Leave a comment:
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Sorry, I don't know anyone myself who would fit. But I do know that you will have no trouble finding candidates, if you offer the market rate for the position.Originally posted by cubixLeave a comment:
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Junior vb.Net developer
I know this doesn't seem the correct place, however...
I am looking to employ a junior vb.Net developer and had an advert on jobserve but little feedback.
We are based in the North East, UK
Do any of you guys know someone who is looking for a job. If so get them to send me a PM with their contact details.
Thanks.
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