Junior vb.Net developer

**expat** · 1 December 2006, 12:17

Originally posted by cubix

I know this doesn't seem the correct place, however...

I am looking to employ a junior vb.Net developer and had an advert on jobserve but little feedback.

We are based in the North East, UK

Do any of you guys know someone who is looking for a job. If so get them to send me a PM with their contact details.

Thanks.

Sorry, I don't know anyone myself who would fit. But I do know that you will have no trouble finding candidates, if you offer the market rate for the position.

**boredsenseless** · 1 December 2006, 12:22

Originally posted by expat

Sorry, I don't know anyone myself who would fit. But I do know that you will have no trouble finding candidates, if you offer the market rate for the position.

You could at least give him some idea of what you consider market rate to be for that role.

On a similar note does anyone else think that on jobserve when it says Market Rate it usually equates to poorly paid.

**expat** · 1 December 2006, 12:26

Originally posted by boredsenseless

You could at least give him some idea of what you consider market rate to be for that role.

On a similar note does anyone else think that on jobserve when it says Market Rate it usually equates to poorly paid.

The rate that gets applicants! I am perfectly serious, that is the very definition of the Market Rate. It is meaningless for me or anyone else to consider what the market rate is: it is the rate set by the market, the rate at which the supply of contractors (at that rate) equals the demand from clients (at that rate).

And I don't imagine for a moment that that is what jobserve ads mean by the phrase.

**rootsnall** · 1 December 2006, 12:28

The word 'junior' is Jobserve speak for poorly paid !

**chicane** · 1 December 2006, 13:09

"Market rates" vary widely ... I reckon you're looking at paying no less than £175/day if you're working directly with the contractor - and you won't get anybody very competent for that. £200-250 is more realistic.

I work directly with clients for around the £200-250 mark in .NET and other similar technologies. Wouldn't want to take on a VB.NET job tho - I only know the C# side of things.

**cubix** · 1 December 2006, 13:37

Originally posted by chicane

"Market rates" vary widely ... I reckon you're looking at paying no less than £175/day if you're working directly with the contractor - and you won't get anybody very competent for that. £200-250 is more realistic.

I work directly with clients for around the £200-250 mark in .NET and other similar technologies. Wouldn't want to take on a VB.NET job tho - I only know the C# side of things.

£175 would be the rate if I was subcontracting this piece of work, however I am trying to build up my business and looking to take on permie.

It is just such as hassle trying to recruit! Agencies look for at least 10% of salary and jobserve is £100 per 7 days. All very expensive for a young company trying to get off the ground

**errorista** · 1 December 2006, 13:47

If the business is worth getting off the ground then go out and get some VC.

When you offer a good rate you will get good people. Oh and why use Jobserve? Why not use your local newspaper to begin with?

2c

**chicane** · 1 December 2006, 13:51

Cubix, you're currently being somewhat cagey about the whole concept of "Market Rate". If you don't know what renumeration you wish to offer candidates right now, at what point will you be armed with the information you need to make this decision?

I reckon you'll get considerably more interest if you're more up-front about the money you're wishing to pay. Candidates (especially those with currently marketable skills such as .NET) are unlikely to respond to any job ad that appears to hide the salary on offer, because more often than not, it's an indication the client wants a highly-skilled person and wants to pay peanuts for their skills.

**cubix** · 1 December 2006, 14:13

Sorry, but I am not trying to be cagey.

For the North East and the role the salary would be £19-20K.

As for the local paper, I was quoted £750 for the job advert and "take it or leave it" !!!

Junior vb.Net developer