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[PokemonStay]

I really wouldn't do that with an indian outsourcing them. What to them is acceptable living conditions to me is often things I wouldn't want my enemies cat living it...

Exactly.

I just got an email from them asking me to apply for the role I turned down. Including my desired rate. 1100 CHF/day? haha

[eek]

If the rate was the issue, Did you not ask for substantially more before declining?

Should have asked for more or asked for all expenses to be paid and see what they say.

I really wouldn't do that with an indian outsourcing them. What to them is acceptable living conditions to me is often things I wouldn't want my enemies cat living it...

[FrontEnder]

Update - I have turned down the role. By email. They keep calling from various numbers that are now all blocked.

Looking back I must have been mad. Like when I got into a loan scheme.

Hopefully my experience will serve as a warning to others?

If the rate was the issue, Did you not ask for substantially more before declining?

Should have asked for more or asked for all expenses to be paid and see what they say.

[Brummie]

You got a gmail filter list handy you can copy paste? I'm curating a list of agencies but you might be able to save some of us a lot of hard work

Below word filters would block 90% of them (known and unknown as well).

CTC
Current Salary (In Detail)
Desired Salary & Package
Expectation
Reasons For Leaving

[nucastle]

Well done!
My blocked Indian agency list must be well over 50 now and they keep getting through with new numbers. Most of their numbers seem to start with 0203 but others are being used as well including a more recent incline of Birmingham based numbers

You got a gmail filter list handy you can copy paste? I'm curating a list of agencies but you might be able to save some of us a lot of hard work

[Eirikur]

Update - I have turned down the role. By email. They keep calling from various numbers that are now all blocked.

Looking back I must have been mad. Like when I got into a loan scheme.

Hopefully my experience will serve as a warning to others?

Well done!
My blocked Indian agency list must be well over 50 now and they keep getting through with new numbers. Most of their numbers seem to start with 0203 but others are being used as well including a more recent incline of Birmingham based numbers

[PokemonStay]

Update - I have turned down the role. By email. They keep calling from various numbers that are now all blocked.

Looking back I must have been mad. Like when I got into a loan scheme.

Hopefully my experience will serve as a warning to others?

[PokemonStay]

• £1000 a month on hotels(cheap ones) - more likely that will be, "per week", not per month?

• I would suggest that if you accept this contract, you will have Zero net income per month?

• Anything less than CHF900 per day you might was well take a low-level support role, based in the UK?

I am starting to see that now.

[PokemonStay]

If despite all the warnings on this board you go ahead with an India based agency, we wish you good luck and all we can do is hope you're not coming back crying and bankrupt from Switzerland.
Locals laugh about a day rate of CHF550, looks like you will be placed in a team with HCL, Tata, wipro or one of the alikes
CHF900+ starts to make sense, especially at banks

You anticipated my next question. Next time I won't settle for < 900.

I found out the hard way about

- Working for an indian recruiter
- Working for an indian IT supplier
- Working in Europe

... all at the same time.

First and foremost you need to make sure you can actually operate as a Ltd company wherever it is you are going. Couldnt do that in the Netherlands so I had to basically go 'inside IR35' on what was 500 euros per day. With the travelling, Dutch taxes and whatnot, i would have been better off with a 200 per day gig in the UK.

Then when you actually want to get paid, let's just say there isn't so much hurry to pay you without a hitch.

Never again.

Ouch. Sorry to hear that. Thanks for sharing.

[Scruff]

So that means about £1500-£2000 a month in air fares. £1000 a month on hotels(cheap ones). Then food.

• £1000 a month on hotels(cheap ones) - more likely that will be, "per week", not per month?

• I would suggest that if you accept this contract, you will have Zero net income per month?

• Anything less than CHF900 per day you might was well take a low-level support role, based in the UK?

[nucastle]

I found out the hard way about

- Working for an indian recruiter
- Working for an indian IT supplier
- Working in Europe

... all at the same time.

First and foremost you need to make sure you can actually operate as a Ltd company wherever it is you are going. Couldnt do that in the Netherlands so I had to basically go 'inside IR35' on what was 500 euros per day. With the travelling, Dutch taxes and whatnot, i would have been better off with a 200 per day gig in the UK.

Then when you actually want to get paid, let's just say there isn't so much hurry to pay you without a hitch.

Never again.

[Eirikur]

If despite all the warnings on this board you go ahead with an India based agency, we wish you good luck and all we can do is hope you're not coming back crying and bankrupt from Switzerland.
Locals laugh about a day rate of CHF550, looks like you will be placed in a team with HCL, Tata, wipro or one of the alikes
CHF900+ starts to make sense, especially at banks

[PokemonStay]

CHF? The contract is in Switzerland?

Do your due diligence before you go. Insist on getting registered in the canton, a work visa and proper payment details before you sign anything.

And don't forget your health insurance.

That has all been proposed. If I go further(unlikely) I will get that all done first.

Have a look here for up-to-date details on working in Switzerland: https://www.ch.ch/en/working-switzerland-eu-efta/

Useful! Cheers! It looks to me as if Silverlink have covered all the bases, however I m going to have another read.

Oh, and depending on where the contract is, 550CHF is nowhere near enough.

+1. My invoice for expenses last month is £3500 (that's 4 weeks of travelling with no markup excluding airfares which the client pays globally)... If the hotel fees don't kill you the taxis / ubers will... Also that's not Swiss prices just India, Finland and Austria...

I did not look at the expenses as I thought it was a scam judging from other CUK posts. So I am only looking now. At the moment I would need to go home every weekend. So that means about £1500-£2000 a month in air fares. £1000 a month on hotels(cheap ones). Then food.

On a take home of £5500 it does not go far. Shame the wife will not join me. Even then the hotel costs might make it very difficult. I looked at GEneva once for renting and that was bad enough.

Looks like it is back to square one then. Shame as I worked in Zurich for 3 months in 1989. All expenses paid. Its a fantastic place.

[eek]

Oh, and depending on where the contract is, 550CHF is nowhere near enough.

+1. My invoice for expenses last month is £3500 (that's 4 weeks of travelling with no markup excluding airfares which the client pays globally)... If the hotel fees don't kill you the taxis / ubers will... Also that's not Swiss prices just India, Finland and Austria...

[cojak]

Have a look here for up-to-date details on working in Switzerland: https://www.ch.ch/en/working-switzerland-eu-efta/