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  • northernladuk
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    Originally posted by billybiro View Post
    You heard it here first, folks.
    I even got a photo of it!

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  • billybiro
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    Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
    It was a bus lane. I got bummed in a bus lane.
    You heard it here first, folks.

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  • northernladuk
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    Originally posted by radish2008 View Post
    was he bummed in the carpark ?
    It was a bus lane. I got bummed in a bus lane.

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  • radish2008
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    Originally posted by BrilloPad View Post
    Was it canned or bummed by HMRC?
    was he bummed in the carpark ?

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  • northernladuk
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    Originally posted by chopper View Post
    Contracting isn't (supposed to be) a worker to employer relationship, it is a business to business relationship. As such, the notion of employment rights or regulatory bodies doesn't really apply. It is more akin to a business asking Cap Gemini/IBM/Accenture/ECS/Mitie/Unisys/Dynorod/KPMG to provide people to deliver a one-off objective. The difference is it is you as a freelancer rather than a great big massive corporate ****.

    The bit that should have got your attention was the original job spec suggesting an term of 3 months or maybe 6 months. This should have rung alarm bells that job security isn't what contracting is about.
    You could go one step further, which you did allude. It's a supplier/client relationship so its not truly equal which some people seem to forget.

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  • chopper
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    Originally posted by Zsat01 View Post
    I really hope there is a regulatory body which will deal with cases like these. I find it unfair and hard to digest.

    But it looks like it's quiet normal based on the comments here!
    Contracting isn't (supposed to be) a worker to employer relationship, it is a business to business relationship. As such, the notion of employment rights or regulatory bodies doesn't really apply. It is more akin to a business asking Cap Gemini/IBM/Accenture/ECS/Mitie/Unisys/Dynorod/KPMG to provide people to deliver a one-off objective. The difference is it is you as a freelancer rather than a great big massive corporate ****.

    The bit that should have got your attention was the original job spec suggesting an term of 3 months or maybe 6 months. This should have rung alarm bells that job security isn't what contracting is about.

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  • uk contractor
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    Originally posted by Zsat01 View Post
    You won't believe it I was also in the permanent role for 7 years but good salary I would have got redundancy in 2 months time. Maybe it is fate and your story sounds motivating!
    Not really fate I was young & highly naïve! Now I'm 21 years older & highly astute!! The agency just lied as most do to make you a disposable asset as & when they require your skillset. You have only lost 2 months salary then so just try to find another perm role & also look for contracts at the same time. Its much easier to find another perm role if you have a perm background than make the jump to contracting right now anyway. Always remind yourself that agents can easily detect if your inexperienced at contracting & will exploit that no matter how friendly they appear to be most will be trying it on to gain a financial advantage. Do not give up no matter how bad things appear its a difficult market for many so if you feel you have to take a more junior role & junior salary to avoid lengthy gaps on your CV.

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  • SueEllen
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    Originally posted by Zsat01 View Post
    I really hope there is a regulatory body which will deal with cases like these. I find it unfair and hard to digest.

    But it looks like it's quiet normal based on the comments here!
    There isn't.

    The only thing you have is a contract and if you sign it without understanding it - the majority of people posting here use professional reviewers - then you are screwed.

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  • Zsat01
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    Originally posted by LondonManc View Post
    So the agent has cost you thousands in lost potential redundancy and lost potential revenue. He won't care. Welcome to the recruitment industry who deserve the bad name they get.
    I really hope there is a regulatory body which will deal with cases like these. I find it unfair and hard to digest.

    But it looks like it's quiet normal based on the comments here!

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  • SueEllen
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    Originally posted by Zsat01 View Post
    You won't believe it I was also in the permanent role for 7 years but good salary I would have got redundancy in 2 months time. Maybe it is fate and your story sounds motivating!
    That was silly.

    You ALWAYS wait for the redundancy money.

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  • LondonManc
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    Originally posted by Zsat01 View Post
    You won't believe it I was also in the permanent role for 7 years but good salary I would have got redundancy in 2 months time. Maybe it is fate and your story sounds motivating!
    So the agent has cost you thousands in lost potential redundancy and lost potential revenue. He won't care. Welcome to the recruitment industry who deserve the bad name they get.

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  • Zsat01
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    Originally posted by SussexSeagull View Post
    Any chance you could un-resign from your current job?

    Magic up some change in personal circumstances if need be.

    I can't as I already left the company. I also had a permanent role offered to me which I declined, maybe I can speak with them and see what happens!

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  • Zsat01
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    Originally posted by uk contractor View Post
    Reminds me of back in 1997 I was told by an agency to leave my almost 7 years perm role to start contracting for them. So I handed my notice in then the agency went radio silence but I still left the perm role as it was going nowhere & the salary was poor. Within 2 weeks I landed my 1st contract @ £80K PA which was not too bad in those days! But nowadays I would not leave a perm role to contract unless I had ultra niche immune to any downturn IT skills!!!

    You won't believe it I was also in the permanent role for 7 years but good salary I would have got redundancy in 2 months time. Maybe it is fate and your story sounds motivating!

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  • SussexSeagull
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    Originally posted by Zsat01 View Post
    Thanks everyone for replying.

    The contract which is 10 pages, says I'll get paid only when I fill the time sheet and it also states that the supplier can cancel the contract, if the client says there is no work.

    I need to find another job and I think contracting isn't my kind of thing I should stick to permanent jobs.

    Thanks again.
    Any chance you could un-resign from your current job?

    Magic up some change in personal circumstances if need be.

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  • northernladuk
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    Originally posted by stek View Post
    Where's NLUK's story about about getting canned in the carpark before starting?
    Ah.. that was at interview not starting thank you very much

    This guy however....

    http://forums.contractoruk.com/busin...ot-agreed.html

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