PM Agile/SCRUM training and certification

[kaiser78]

Agile project management without experience - good luck with that.

Those I know who care about Agile seem to focus on the Scrum Alliance certificates - all of which expect experience as much as paper learning.

It's easily done.

[eek]

The basic qualifications have a bad name in the business. Years ago it was a 2 day course with no exam at the end. I know so many people who have this but haven't got a clue. In that sense PSM is a better qualification but less known.

The more advanced Scrum Alliance courses are harder to get but are essentially designed to get more money out you.

True but the people I trust to know and understand agile are all either Scrum Certified Professionals or aiming to get that qualification so it definitely has some momentum behind it.

[VillageContractor]

Agile project management without experience - good luck with that.

Those I know who care about Agile seem to focus on the Scrum Alliance certificates - all of which expect experience as much as paper learning.

The basic qualifications have a bad name in the business. Years ago it was a 2 day course with no exam at the end. I know so many people who have this but haven't got a clue. In that sense PSM is a better qualification but less known.

The more advanced Scrum Alliance courses are harder to get but are essentially designed to get more money out you.

[mrtuk]

I have always found PMs who try to be Scrum Masters tend to just be a PM in disguise, so I wouldn't recommend doing the PSM.

I recommend PMI-ACP for PMs.

Agree that there is a distinction between Scrum Master and PM - worth reading the guide on scrum.org, IIRC they think PM is not a role in scrum, so potentially conflicting with the notion that an 'Agile PM' course even exists. Would recommend having a think about whether you want to be a PM or a Scrum Master before deciding.

[eek]

Agile project management without experience - good luck with that.

Those I know who care about Agile seem to focus on the Scrum Alliance certificates - all of which expect experience as much as paper learning.

[VillageContractor]

I have always found PMs who try to be Scrum Masters tend to just be a PM in disguise, so I wouldn't recommend doing the PSM.

I recommend PMI-ACP for PMs.

[Wonky]

Hola,

Having a few months off and thought it may be an idea to add some formal training/certification to the CV having worked in a supposed 'Agile environment' for the past year or so (it definitely wasn't ).

Interested in others thoughts as to what certification is most practical and marketable from a PM perspective as there does seem to be a wide range of options.

Initially looking at the APMG AgilePM certification and then spotted the Prince2 Agile option as well (I already have P2 Practitioner )

Then there's also various SCRUM certification available from scrum.org and others. PSM looks doable as home learning test at $150 for the PSM1 assessment.

Current thinking is I may jump on a AgilePM 4 day course with exam/certification and then follow on with SCRUM PSM1 under my own steam. So interested in others experiences and thoughts and some validation for my thinking?

Thanks in advance