Contract ads that deal with 2-3+ agencies

[MrMarkyMark]

You probably weren't insured to go on site.

And that is what he should have said, to them, in any case

[LondonManc]

It was one of those, you start yesterday type of contracts, so no contract was in place and quite wasn't prepared to wait. Agent assured contract would be signed and done that week.
To be honest I've rarely taken any gigs where I've been able to push back or have everything ship shape before starting.

You probably weren't insured to go on site.

[johndc31]

You seem to be struggling with the whole getting a gig thing. Why start with no contract? Contracting is about getting the gigs, it's our job. They bit at the client is the easy bit. Maybe a re-think of your approach to finding gigs? You know about Opt in/out, contract checks, not starting without contracts, negotiating? Get better at that and I'm sure it will go a little smoother.

It was one of those, you start yesterday type of contracts, so no contract was in place and quite wasn't prepared to wait. Agent assured contract would be signed and done that week.
To be honest I've rarely taken any gigs where I've been able to push back or have everything ship shape before starting.

[LondonManc]

I think the main reason which it may put people off is you can never be sure you have been submitted. I know this is true if a job is advertised through a single agency too. But it's a bit crap when you submit your CV to 3 agencies for the same job. Speak to agency 1, they say yes we'll sumit you, then you speak to agency 2 & 3, and tell them you've already been submitted, when in fact agency 1 hasn't bothered to at all.

One thing I've done in the past is say to agency 2, 'I think I have already been submitted, can you check with the end client'. Then it's down to whether the agent thinks you are a strong candidate or not and can be bothered to try and find out.

I think some agencies use some sort of centralised submission tool, not sure how widespread this is though.

This. Always useful to ask if you've not got an existing relationship with the first agency.

[doconline]

It totally normal to see this. Not every gig is like this but yes it's common, particularly in Public Sector. Why does it put you off? If you are good enough it won't matter. It's been around for a long time so it's not new.

I think the main reason which it may put people off is you can never be sure you have been submitted. I know this is true if a job is advertised through a single agency too. But it's a bit crap when you submit your CV to 3 agencies for the same job. Speak to agency 1, they say yes we'll sumit you, then you speak to agency 2 & 3, and tell them you've already been submitted, when in fact agency 1 hasn't bothered to at all.

One thing I've done in the past is say to agency 2, 'I think I have already been submitted, can you check with the end client'. Then it's down to whether the agent thinks you are a strong candidate or not and can be bothered to try and find out.

I think some agencies use some sort of centralised submission tool, not sure how widespread this is though.

[LondonManc]

Go perm or accept the contract market is how it is.

Larger companies often operate a PSL with multiple agencies because they know some are better than others at sourcing certain types of people. They're no doubt obliged to provide the same advert to each agency though.

[kaiser78]

I had a nightmare earlier this year where the agent grabbed the gig for me but didn't even have a contract in place, it was literally a piece of paper. I was fuming, I dropped the gig as 3 weeks in they didn't want to know and I was trying to get at least an IR35 friendly contract signed and it wasn't happening.

It seems the industry is swamped with one man bands and tin pot setups. You live and learn.

Live and learn quickly ! This is a big no no...

[northernladuk]

I had a nightmare earlier this year where the agent grabbed the gig for me but didn't even have a contract in place, it was literally a piece of paper. I was fuming, I dropped the gig as 3 weeks in they didn't want to know and I was trying to get at least an IR35 friendly contract signed and it wasn't happening.

It seems the industry is swamped with one man bands and tin pot setups. You live and learn.

You seem to be struggling with the whole getting a gig thing. Why start with no contract? Contracting is about getting the gigs, it's our job. They bit at the client is the easy bit. Maybe a re-think of your approach to finding gigs? You know about Opt in/out, contract checks, not starting without contracts, negotiating? Get better at that and I'm sure it will go a little smoother.

[northernladuk]

I've been approached for a contract, however, after a little research I found out this job is being promoted by another 3 agencies. This really puts me off, but is it normal in today's market?

It totally normal to see this. Not every gig is like this but yes it's common, particularly in Public Sector. Why does it put you off? If you are good enough it won't matter. It's been around for a long time so it's not new.

The reason being I find myself wasting a lot time getting to the final hurdle, interview, even tests, to be told the role has been filled and then you never hear from the agent again or they ignore you . Hey, that's contracting I know, but it seems to be happening much more frequently, carpet bombing. How are you finding the market recently?

Again nothing new hear and not really a problem if you are good enough. Market is quiet so there is going to be a lot more competition. If you can't hack it go permie.

[VillageContractor]

I had a nightmare earlier this year where the agent grabbed the gig for me but didn't even have a contract in place, it was literally a piece of paper. I was fuming, I dropped the gig as 3 weeks in they didn't want to know and I was trying to get at least an IR35 friendly contract signed and it wasn't happening.

It seems the industry is swamped with one man bands and tin pot setups. You live and learn.

Why did you start if you didn't have a contract?

[johndc31]

I see it quite a lot on the job boards. Usually a waste of time as it's end clients who don't know the contracting market, or appreciate that agents can actually do a job. If there's an agency you've used before try via them if interested as they'll know you as reliable which makes you top of their pile (unless you screwed them over that is).

I had a nightmare earlier this year where the agent grabbed the gig for me but didn't even have a contract in place, it was literally a piece of paper. I was fuming, I dropped the gig as 3 weeks in they didn't want to know and I was trying to get at least an IR35 friendly contract signed and it wasn't happening.

It seems the industry is swamped with one man bands and tin pot setups. You live and learn.

[Lance]

I've been approached for a contract, however, after a little research I found out this job is being promoted by another 3 agencies. This really puts me off, but is it normal in today's market?

The reason being I find myself wasting a lot time getting to the final hurdle, interview, even tests, to be told the role has been filled and then you never hear from the agent again or they ignore you . Hey, that's contracting I know, but it seems to be happening much more frequently, carpet bombing. How are you finding the market recently?

I see it quite a lot on the job boards. Usually a waste of time as it's end clients who don't know the contracting market, or appreciate that agents can actually do a job. If there's an agency you've used before try via them if interested as they'll know you as reliable which makes you top of their pile (unless you screwed them over that is).

[kaiser78]

I've been approached for a contract, however, after a little research I found out this job is being promoted by another 3 agencies. This really puts me off, but is it normal in today's market?

The reason being I find myself wasting a lot time getting to the final hurdle, interview, even tests, to be told the role has been filled and then you never hear from the agent again or they ignore you . Hey, that's contracting I know, but it seems to be happening much more frequently, carpet bombing. How are you finding the market recently?

This doesn't matter - make sure the agent guarantees that your CV has been submitted, whichever one you go with.

Market is pretty boyant for my skillset at the moment given it is Aug and should ramp up even more during September hopefully.

[johndc31]

I've been approached for a contract, however, after a little research I found out this job is being promoted by another 3 agencies. This really puts me off, but is it normal in today's market?

The reason being I find myself wasting a lot time getting to the final hurdle, interview, even tests, to be told the role has been filled and then you never hear from the agent again or they ignore you . Hey, that's contracting I know, but it seems to be happening much more frequently, carpet bombing. How are you finding the market recently?