Reply to: Company details on CV?

[northernladuk]

Assuming you use an agency, as opposed to marketing your business directly and sourcing your own leads. In which case, I'd say that it is more than appropriate to have your company details on your C.V. It is, after all, suppose to be a genuine business. I'd also say the sooner you can get away from needing to submit a C.V. the better.

The contract is between your LTD and agent which is fine. The person being represented still needs to be checked and interviewed and the best way to do this is a C.V. Even the big consultancies will submit a resume of the proposed persons skills when new people are requested. You are not fully understanding what we are a business submitting staff. If you want to provide a sub you'll probably have to submit a CV to the client before hand.

The CV is for the client to make sure the person they are getting is right for the gig. You have absolutely no commercial relationship with the client so there is no need to represent your business to them.

A better understanding of how we work and the relationship between you, the agent and the client is required, not just pretend you are a business so you think you've got to do this and that.

[LondonManc]

Contracting is very simple. It's a person who operates either via a limited company (as the most tax-efficient vehicle determined by HMRC) or an umbrella company (as a vehicle of convenience). Don't suddenly think that because you're an IT contractor you're in the same boat as freelancers who advertise in local papers, leaflets catchment areas and so on. You've simply become a gun for hire with a skillset and experience to be matched to projects that are available.

We don't get repeat business because of good B2B marketing - we get repeat business because we did an at least decent job last time and it shortens the client's onboarding process. Whether they then want you to go through an agency is down to their commercial rules for contractor engagement.

We are, by and large, subcontracted by agencies. It's still a B2B relationship, but our B2B is with both the agency and the client. The operating model is different to what we normally see when the likes of Accenture, EY and other consultancies engage with clients, mainly because of the requirement. We offer (or should offer) speciality services that cannot be commoditised like the PMO functions that churn out PowerPoint after PowerPoint. Ideally, though, it should be the same as the smaller niche consultancies that operate in specialist spaces. It isn't for one very simple reason; us. There's generally only one specialist in our limited company so there's only one set of skills and experience to call on. As such, it's all about what we can do and have done. That's why we submit cvs rather than portfolios and reference sites. As much as we try to operate as a limited company, unless there are at least two people who can go out and fee-earn, we're still freelancers rather than consultancies. It makes us no different in the sense that we should go about things in a professional B2B manner, but it does, for good or bad, mean that we are treated differently by agencies and clients alike.

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[Cirrus]

Assuming you use an agency, as opposed to marketing your business directly and sourcing your own leads. In which case, I'd say that it is more than appropriate to have your company details on your C.V. It is, after all, suppose to be a genuine business. I'd also say the sooner you can get away from needing to submit a C.V. the better.

That is the whole point, Somey.

If you are a contractor and you are going through an agency then the agency is the genuine business so the CV has their name. If you are not involving an agency, then it's your name.

This thread wouldn't have started unless there was confusion over being a contractor vs being in business on your own account. It happens quite a bit on these forums. People look at Richard Branson and think "I fancy that lifestyle". So they decide to set a new business and become an entrepreneur. Well - almost. What they actually do is go on Jobserve, buy a company for £20 and put its name all over their CV.

[somewebguy]

The agency will remove whatever you put - absolutely guaranteed.

Assuming you use an agency, as opposed to marketing your business directly and sourcing your own leads. In which case, I'd say that it is more than appropriate to have your company details on your C.V. It is, after all, suppose to be a genuine business. I'd also say the sooner you can get away from needing to submit a C.V. the better.

[Cirrus]

A propos nothing

Many thanks to you all for your advice.

Actually James, it doesn't matter a jot.

The agency will remove whatever you put - absolutely guaranteed.

So put what you like.

Incidentally: having gone through a recent long and torturous job campaign I can report that in every case that I could see my CV it had retained all the formatting, fonts etc that I'd submitted. Some people go to great lengths to choose plain layouts they believe will negotiate mythical agency candidate databases, but I assure you it's a waste of time.

[northernladuk]

whats the small print?

When someone fails so much, one facepalm isn't enough.

[KentDogWalker]

whats the small print?

[northernladuk]

[northernladuk]

[LondonManc]

[northernladuk]

Why ask for advice and then not ******* read it when it's given?

[jamesd]

Thank you

Hi,

Many thanks to you all for your advice. My CV header now reads:

[NAME]
[COMPANY NAME]
[TELEPHONE][EMAIL]

Then as footer I have:
[COMPANY NAME, COMPANY NUMBER, REG OFFICE]

Thank you again for your advice.

[SueEllen]

My CV has the email address, mobile number and nationality.
If they don't want foreigners, they don't waste my time.

You are presuming agents can read more than your name and mobile number.....

[Bee]

My CV has the email address, mobile number and nationality.
If they don't want foreigners, they don't waste my time.