Reply to: Breaking contract / Quitting

[theroyale]

You are treating this as an inside IR35 contract financially aren't you?

If you are paying yourself PAYE what do the sums look like if you consider quitting right away and being immediately available for work for a proper contract?

No keeping this outside. The paper contract is PCG approved and IR35-friendly (but as I already said the working conditions are heavily inside). Not going to be here long so taking the chance.

[theroyale]

You have been given some good advice and this is superfluous but, I'm in the mood, so here are two questions to ask yourself:
1) Am I running a business or an auction?

2) When my client co/agent terminates me because a lower bidder has turned up, which bit of the contract I have not read should I look for?

Answered this earlier in the thread as well, I was NOT jumping to a contract which had a higher rate. The rates were exactly the same on both. The issue was working conditions and day-to-day behaviour of the client. So here's question I'll throw back at you:

How badly does a client have to behave in order for you to look to terminate?

If your answer is that you would stick it out no matter what because you have signed a contract and it would be ungentlemanly to back out of it, well we just have to differ then.

[psychocandy]

I'd be interested to know how many people are actually terminated over a cheaper alternative. Ignore situations where the contract is not renewed as someone else is found for the purposes of this argument as that is not what Taita said.

How many people are really terminated for a cheaper alternative? And compare that to the number of contractors that ditch a client for a bit more money. I bet there is a huge chasm between the two stats.

Now you may have a point here.... :-)

[northernladuk]

2) When my client co/agent terminates me because a lower bidder has turned up, which bit of the contract I have not read should I look for?

I'd be interested to know how many people are actually terminated over a cheaper alternative. Ignore situations where the contract is not renewed as someone else is found for the purposes of this argument as that is not what Taita said.

How many people are really terminated for a cheaper alternative? And compare that to the number of contractors that ditch a client for a bit more money. I bet there is a huge chasm between the two stats.

[psychocandy]

You have been given some good advice and this is superfluous but, I'm in the mood, so here are two questions to ask yourself:
1) Am I running a business or an auction?

2) When my client co/agent terminates me because a lower bidder has turned up, which bit of the contract I have not read should I look for?

At last..... ;-)

Rule no 1 - Look after number 1.

[Taita]

One and a half months in to a six monther i find that my new contract is a dud - high level of control (working practices well within IR35), rude bossy manager who seems to not understand the difference between employees and contractors, and boring work.

Another opportunity is coming up for which I am interviewing tomorrow.

What is the best way of breaking contract? What are the possible consequences? There is a one month notice clause on this one. If the new gig comes through the most notice I will be able to get away with is about 2 weeks. Thanks.

You have been given some good advice and this is superfluous but, I'm in the mood, so here are two questions to ask yourself:
1) Am I running a business or an auction?

2) When my client co/agent terminates me because a lower bidder has turned up, which bit of the contract I have not read should I look for?

[northernladuk]

I thought I get in before psychocandy.

Lol.. Don't forget the [PC] [/PC] options

[Unix]

Nice input bro.

I thought I get in before psychocandy.

[northernladuk]

Work the 2 weeks then sickie.

Nice input bro.

[Unix]

One and a half months in to a six monther i find that my new contract is a dud - high level of control (working practices well within IR35), rude bossy manager who seems to not understand the difference between employees and contractors, and boring work.

Another opportunity is coming up for which I am interviewing tomorrow.

What is the best way of breaking contract? What are the possible consequences? There is a one month notice clause on this one. If the new gig comes through the most notice I will be able to get away with is about 2 weeks. Thanks.

Work the 2 weeks then sickie.

[northernladuk]

You are treating this as an inside IR35 contract financially aren't you?

If you are paying yourself PAYE what do the sums look like if you consider quitting right away and being immediately available for work for a proper contract?

[theroyale]

As it turns out the role I was looking to switch to was filled internally.

So back to square one - at least for the time being!

[LondonManc]

Quite but your opening line of 'I usually' didn't indicate you were putting your comment in the context of the OP's situation.

Companies don't hesitate to offshore for much cheapness though.

[northernladuk]

True ... but the OP said he was being disrespected. I did this at one client as it was very bad. They actually increased my day rate significantly and their behaviour towards me was a lot more respectful. the whole point of being self employed is to do a good job and avoid being mistreated. If they are crap to work for then why would you care about going back there?

Quite but your opening line of 'I usually' didn't indicate you were putting your comment in the context of the OP's situation.

[despot]

True ... but the OP said he was being disrespected. I did this at one client as it was very bad. They actually increased my day rate significantly and their behaviour towards me was a lot more respectful. the whole point of being self employed is to do a good job and avoid being mistreated. If they are crap to work for then why would you care about going back there?