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  • piotrkula
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    Agreed. Allot of companies are starving for developers at 25K rates, and the best they can offer is the equivalent in day rate for a contractor.. just to get somebody in, anybody, just do that HTML for us pleeeease.
    There are tons of proper contracts out there, just a bit of a waiting game and when one does come up you need to trust your agent to get you in quick.

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  • SussexSeagull
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    Must confess most of the FTC people I have worked with have ended up as permanent.

    I really don't think it is anything for us to worry about.

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  • Boney M
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    Originally posted by clearedforlanding View Post
    The problem is the desperate plug hole is starting to have a lot of "no-so-crap" people swirling around it, mortgages to pay, kids to feed etc.

    As they start to feed the FTC requirements it changes the landscape.
    exactly this

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  • clearedforlanding
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    Originally posted by jamesbrown View Post
    Why go for crap or desperate when you can have both for the same low, fixed, price?
    The problem is the desperate plug hole is starting to have a lot of "no-so-crap" people swirling around it, mortgages to pay, kids to feed etc.

    As they start to feed the FTC requirements it changes the landscape.

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  • jamesbrown
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    Originally posted by psychocandy View Post
    Never ceases to amaze me. Surely the person responsible for this budget knows that the only people who are going to apply for this will be either a) crap or b) desperate.
    Why go for crap or desperate when you can have both for the same low, fixed, price?

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  • SueEllen
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    The issue with a lot of FTC is that they are neither contract roles, or permanent roles with benefits e.g. pension so actually an abuse of workers

    Some councils were taken to task under the Labour government for using them for the latter reason.

    If they come with the pensions etc then they are suited to permies who change roles every 2 or so years.

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  • northernladuk
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    Originally posted by SlipTheJab View Post
    They are of concern if they are beginning to replace pukka contract roles.
    But if someone can do it for two years and possibly more it wasn't a pukka contract role at all.

    Gov departments use them as the standard way of engaging permies so they are replacing our gig's.

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  • SlipTheJab
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    Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
    FTC's are not for us so not so sure why we are getting so upset about them. Don't get me wrong, they are a disgrace and I can't see any good coming from them in the long run but still.... They just aren't for us so nothing really to get all excitable over..
    They are of concern if they are beginning to replace pukka contract roles.

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  • northernladuk
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    Originally posted by psychocandy View Post
    Never ceases to amaze me. Surely the person responsible for this budget knows that the only people who are going to apply for this will be either a) crap or b) desperate.
    The people that apply for this won't be (or shouldn't be) contractors so they will be the going standard for permie rates....

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  • northernladuk
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    FTC's are not for us so not so sure why we are getting so upset about them. Don't get me wrong, they are a disgrace and I can't see any good coming from them in the long run but still.... They just aren't for us so nothing really to get all excitable over..

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  • SlipTheJab
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    Originally posted by psychocandy View Post
    Never ceases to amaze me. Surely the person responsible for this budget knows that the only people who are going to apply for this will be either a) crap or b) desperate.
    I take it your CV has already gone over PC

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  • psychocandy
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    Never ceases to amaze me. Surely the person responsible for this budget knows that the only people who are going to apply for this will be either a) crap or b) desperate.

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  • SlipTheJab
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    Originally posted by Scrag Meister View Post
    Saw a role for my skillset in a location not far from current ClientCo recently, for 40% of my current rate?

    Start filling that War Chest.
    They'll fill it with a Bob and realise eventually that you get what you pay for.

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  • Scrag Meister
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    Saw a role for my skillset in a location not far from current ClientCo recently, for 40% of my current rate?

    Start filling that War Chest.

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  • Elliegirl
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    Been seeing a lot of this in my own area where contracts are being turned into FTC for around 30k mark or very noticeable drop in rates. For the moment I have a longish term contract (but anything can change as we know). Will be squirreling away as much as possible to shield me from the cold dark days to come....

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