Reply to: Stick or twist?

[achilles]

Yes, interviews are very much a "fire and forget" situation. You do the interview and then you move on to the next role of interest until you have an offer and a signed contract.

[LondonManc]

Click on the thanks icon again.

Direction and Control?

[northernladuk]

Heard a story the other day about a client who asked for CVs for a role, then it went quiet. Agent called client a few times but no joy so they forgot about it.

6 MONTHS later client phoned agent and wants to interview two of the candidates and can they start monday. Turned out none of the original batch were available any more (surprise surprise!) and client was well put out!

and?

[psychocandy]

Agents get lied to as well. Some clients pick a candidate or two from 3-4 agencies to interview. Not telling each agency they are doing so and implying each agent is the sole agent.

There are also clients who want the perfect fit for the poor rate they are paying. They waste agents time by interviewing multiple people badly.

It's actually interesting hearing the other side of the recruitment process but it doesn't help in IT recruitment the majority of UK agencies are just sales people who have absolutely no understanding of contracts, technology etc.

As others have said told take the agent's treatment of you personally.

Heard a story the other day about a client who asked for CVs for a role, then it went quiet. Agent called client a few times but no joy so they forgot about it.

6 MONTHS later client phoned agent and wants to interview two of the candidates and can they start monday. Turned out none of the original batch were available any more (surprise surprise!) and client was well put out!

[SueEllen]

I think both of you have a point. I'll never know if it's the agent or client really. The agent might have known all along that there are other candidates, but chose to tell me what he did in order to keep me warm. Or, the client just blind sided the agent altogether. From my first convo with the agent, he insisted they were sole agents for that gig...

Agents get lied to as well. Some clients pick a candidate or two from 3-4 agencies to interview. Not telling each agency they are doing so and implying each agent is the sole agent.

There are also clients who want the perfect fit for the poor rate they are paying. They waste agents time by interviewing multiple people badly.

It's actually interesting hearing the other side of the recruitment process but it doesn't help in IT recruitment the majority of UK agencies are just sales people who have absolutely no understanding of contracts, technology etc.

As others have said told take the agent's treatment of you personally.

[northernladuk]

it would have been cleverer if by clicking it again it gave double thanks

Hell no. Alias would get himself banned for like and thanks abuse.

[Danglekt]

Oh dats clever!

it would have been cleverer if by clicking it again it gave double thanks

[MrMarkyMark]

I get it... so basically,

1. Hope that my own interview went well and they're convinced I'm the guy
2. Don't wait around. Rather assume it's a no and chase up other leads
3. Don't take this too personally - whatever happens, happens!

Perfect

[SlipTheJab]

Oh dats clever!

Doh, Even your accountant could have told you that

[northernladuk]

Click on the thanks icon again.

Oh dats clever!

[northernladuk]

I get it... so basically,

1. Hope that my own interview went well and they're convinced I'm the guy
2. Don't wait around. Rather assume it's a no and chase up other leads
3. Don't take this too personally - whatever happens, happens!

Absolutely this!! Hit the nail on the head. Work on the basis until you are sitting at the clients desk on the first day you have nothing. You don't get paid on promises and potentials.

Also people get hung up about feedback from agents, both believing what they say which I dispelled a few posts ago and also get angry the agent doesn't give them feedback. If the agent wants you they will be all over you, if they don't then no amount of feedback will change anything.

Interview and move on. If a gig pops up happy days. If not you are already on to the next ones.

GL.

[avgjoe]

Yup. Remember it's a client supplier relationship. It's not permie land anymore where you are a potential long term asset to the company. They want the right guy to fulfil the task they need completing. They'll dither until they are happy that need is fulfilled. It's not personal, it's business. As a supplier you are at the mercy of the client and have very little leverage, even dropping rates to look more attractive doesn't work.

I get it... so basically,

1. Hope that my own interview went well and they're convinced I'm the guy
2. Don't wait around. Rather assume it's a no and chase up other leads
3. Don't take this too personally - whatever happens, happens!

[avgjoe]

(sigh) It's the client that's decided to interview more not the agent.

How do I take a 'thanks' off a post?

I think both of you have a point. I'll never know if it's the agent or client really. The agent might have known all along that there are other candidates, but chose to tell me what he did in order to keep me warm. Or, the client just blind sided the agent altogether. From my first convo with the agent, he insisted they were sole agents for that gig...

[NotAllThere]

(sigh) It's the client that's decided to interview more not the agent.

How do I take a 'thanks' off a post?

Click on the thanks icon again.

[northernladuk]

Yes - I totally understand now. So, the reality is, I have no leverage except to try and line up interviews elsewhere right?

Yup. Remember it's a client supplier relationship. It's not permie land anymore where you are a potential long term asset to the company. They want the right guy to fulfil the task they need completing. They'll dither until they are happy that need is fulfilled. It's not personal, it's business. As a supplier you are at the mercy of the client and have very little leverage, even dropping rates to look more attractive doesn't work.