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Previously on "Security Clearance - Arrested but not charged"

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  • Bozwell
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    Originally posted by Taita View Post
    But the OP was not the subject of the enquiry.........they were investigating his friend. "I told them several things about his past that would likely put off a potential employer" but the friend was cleared.

    I was not advocating lies, merely raising an eyebrow at the result!
    But it's not about the employer as such it's about security risk. It's not designed to identify a candidates suitability for a job.

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  • Taita
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    Originally posted by DaveB View Post
    No, what he said probably corroborated what his freind had already told them, and didn't bring to light anything he hadnt told them. Thats the point. To establish if you can be trusted. If you withold information or lie, you can't be trusted and you dont get clearance.
    But the OP was not the subject of the enquiry.........they were investigating his friend. "I told them several things about his past that would likely put off a potential employer" but the friend was cleared.

    I was not advocating lies, merely raising an eyebrow at the result!
    Last edited by Taita; 17 June 2015, 16:02.

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  • DaveB
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    Originally posted by Taita View Post
    How come he was cleared when you back bit him. Did they not believe you?
    No, what he said probably corroborated what his freind had already told them, and didn't bring to light anything he hadnt told them. Thats the point. To establish if you can be trusted. If you withold information or lie, you can't be trusted and you dont get clearance.

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  • Bozwell
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    Originally posted by Taita View Post
    You have been reading some poor quality spy stories! Potential blackmailers are a very small threat. Serial deceivers are much a bigger risk! It is whether you are an adulterer rather than whether you care about being found out after you have had your fun.
    I just listened to the explanation of the person who did the interview but there's probably multiple things they are looking for. The point is that being honest in these things is the right thing to do.

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  • Taita
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    Originally posted by Bozwell View Post
    They don't really care too much what you have done (within reason), but judge the likelihood of it being used to get information from you. If you've already disclosed all the naughty bits of your past no one can threaten to tell the authorities in order to make you talk about the secrets.
    You have been reading some poor quality spy stories! Potential blackmailers are a very small threat. Serial deceivers are much a bigger risk! It is whether you are an adulterer rather than whether you care about being found out after you have had your fun.

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  • Bozwell
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    Originally posted by Taita View Post
    How come he was cleared when you back bit him. Did they not believe you?
    They don't really care too much what you have done (within reason), but judge the likelihood of it being used to get information from you. If you've already disclosed all the naughty bits of your past no one can threaten to tell the authorities in order to make you talk about the secrets.

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  • Taita
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    Originally posted by Bozwell View Post
    It is important that you tell them everything as they will almost certainly will find out anyway, and liars tend not to get security cleared as that is exactly the type of thing they are trying to establish about your character. Even if you were convicted of a crime it does not necessarily exclude you from gaining clearance. Of course it depends what the crime was, but you have not been convicted of anything yet anyway.

    A couple of years ago I was interviewed about my best friend as he needed the very highest level of security clearance (works at AWE). It was made clear to me that I had to answer all questions honestly as what they were really looking for was likely hood that he could be blackmailed by someone for information. I told them several things about his past that would likely put off a potential employer but he was security cleared without any trouble. The details of the application will not get back to employer, just that you have either passed or failed.
    How come he was cleared when you back bit him. Did they not believe you?

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  • Boney M
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    This will not be filtered out on a SC

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  • Bozwell
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    It is important that you tell them everything as they will almost certainly will find out anyway, and liars tend not to get security cleared as that is exactly the type of thing they are trying to establish about your character. Even if you were convicted of a crime it does not necessarily exclude you from gaining clearance. Of course it depends what the crime was, but you have not been convicted of anything yet anyway.

    A couple of years ago I was interviewed about my best friend as he needed the very highest level of security clearance (works at AWE). It was made clear to me that I had to answer all questions honestly as what they were really looking for was likely hood that he could be blackmailed by someone for information. I told them several things about his past that would likely put off a potential employer but he was security cleared without any trouble. The details of the application will not get back to employer, just that you have either passed or failed.

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  • Eirikur
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    Don't feed the trolls

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  • Scruff
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    Did you, or didn't you? Only you know the answer...

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  • Taita
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    Originally posted by oliverson View Post
    Ever thought about a career in Investment Banking?
    Ouch!

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  • oliverson
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    Originally posted by whocaresdude03 View Post
    Hi,

    This was 2 counts of theft and 1 count of fraud.

    This is still on-going and in June 2014 I was released without any charges but investigation still on-going.

    ....
    Ever thought about a career in Investment Banking?

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  • northernladuk
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    Lucky you can't get arrested for taking good two minutes to look for a sticky where exactly this has been asked many many times over hey...

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  • jmo21
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    Originally posted by tractor View Post
    Given you have made no denial, are you guilty?
    Nice try, Columbo.

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