Reply to: Rate dilution bait and switch

[d000hg]

Or a policy which would apply to everyone working on-site and so wouldn't be indicative of employment.

I doubt the cleaners are told how many breaks they can take.

[TheFaQQer]

If they're dictating hours, making contractors clock in/out, and stipulate how many breaks can be taken, that sounds like employment to me

Or a policy which would apply to everyone working on-site and so wouldn't be indicative of employment.

[d000hg]

Oh for goodness sake... maybe I should move this back to general so that really appropriate responses can be made. "Employer" indeed.

If they're dictating hours, making contractors clock in/out, and stipulate how many breaks can be taken, that sounds like employment to me

[JRCT]

Another good reason to get this confirmed up front is that what's expected from the client, or contracted, is often very different to what happens on the floor. I've worked in many places, contractor and perm, where people stay until 6 every day just because everyone else does and it would be 'seen' to be bad if they left on time.

Ridiculous.

[psychocandy]

Learnt the hard way on this one I have.
Always ask at interview what the expectations are. Otherwise, it ends up like this.
BTW - how many hours are they talking about? Or were? I'd say 37.5 is normal.

I used to think asking would put people off at interview but now I think stuff it it might be a showstopper. For instance, if gig is local then no biggie that its 8 hrs rather than 7.5 NORMALLY. But if its 90 mins drive away then it makes a bit of a difference to whether its doable or not IMHO.

[worzelGummidge]

I've got similar important issues

1. I've got a 1 ear phone headphones rather than 2 I had at my old contract

2. The coffee is 40p a cup here and free and my last place

3. My chair is a different colour


Should I walk ?

lol

[Pondlife]

1072

We wish.

No point really. The next accounts are already lined up.

[TheFaQQer]

1072

We wish.

[GlenW]

1072

[Unix]

It's Kandr/Russell/other banned incarnations current username, twat is part of his natural persona, it's just a case of when it emerges. As we all know he was a bonehead to not agree the hours up front or during contract negotiations.
Of course; given his posting history; it's entirely possible the whole thread is a trolling exercise.

TykeMerc is mine also, thought it would be fun to make a miserable sockie who's MO is to call out sockies, Meta or what?

[TykeMerc]

Dont talk so stupid. If you want to act like a twat, go ahead. Oh, I see you already did.

It's Kandr/Russell/other banned incarnations current username, twat is part of his natural persona, it's just a case of when it emerges. As we all know he was a bonehead to not agree the hours up front or during contract negotiations.
Of course; given his posting history; it's entirely possible the whole thread is a trolling exercise.

[Batcher]

So say you started a new place and the first day they said, BTW you have to suck the managers knob every day at 3pm. I am guessing you would have assumed you wouldn't have had to do that without asking at the interview.

Where do I sign ?

[BolshieBastard]

So say you started a new place and the first day they said, BTW you have to suck the managers knob every day at 3pm. I am guessing you would have assumed you wouldn't have had to do that without asking at the interview.

Dont talk so stupid. If you want to act like a twat, go ahead. Oh, I see you already did.

[tractor]

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So say you started a new place and the first day they said, BTW you have to suck the managers knob every day at 3pm. I am guessing you would have assumed you wouldn't have had to do that without asking at the interview.

Not if it wasn't in the contract and certainly only for premium rate.

But seriously, as a key part of selling knowledge, hours are important enough to discuss pre-contract and at the very latest, contract signing.

[Unix]

FFS, why did you 'assume' the hours would be the same!? This is something you should have clarified at interview or at the very least with the agent.

Sounds to me like you're using the excuse of a single hour per day to look for other issues you claim 'could constitute' a breach.

You need to get back to permiedom and quick.

So say you started a new place and the first day they said, BTW you have to suck the managers knob every day at 3pm. I am guessing you would have assumed you wouldn't have had to do that without asking at the interview.