Reply to: Immediate Termination from Client without serving Notice

[jmo21]

Any contractor worth it's salt is prepared to lose his/hers contract as of yesterday and not whine about it, as this is business. If you don't like it, go permie.

Easy to say, but if it happened to me, I'd be pretty annoyed too, even though I am well aware of this, and been contracting 7 years.

If it happens in the early days of your contracting career I can see how it would be particularly jarring.

[TheFaQQer]

As TF already explained, such a clause is as mute ...

moot

[sal]

A question to the rest. How did you manage to get rid of the 'Unsatisfactory performance of contractor' clause from your respective contracts?

If you haven't, aren't you in the same boat?

As TF already explained, such a clause is as mute as all other clauses specifying termination notices. Even if you can remove it from the contract, the customer can get rid of you with no notice and no liability by simply not giving you work and not signing your timesheets.

Personally i pay no heed to any termination clauses, other than how much notice i have to give and always treat the customer side as 0 day.

Any contractor worth it's salt is prepared to lose his/hers contract as of yesterday and not whine about it, as this is business. If you don't like it, go permie.

[Scrag Meister]

Wow, that is a totally non-understanding client.

Stuff 'em, be where you need to be, it won't be the client who will be there in future decades.

Sounds like you are lucky to be out of there.

Priorities, frustrating to lose the contract but hey, welcome to contracting.

Family before Fees.

[Incognito]

Seriously, is anyone really falling for this? The chimp goes from pidgin engleesh to:

Well, I joined this contract 4 weeks ago, no indication on my quality of work. Even in my final meeting client said, it is not a reflection on my work its just a mismatch of timing.

So its highly unlikely they were unhappy with my work.

It's some sad sack building up a sockie.

[SpontaneousOrder]

If you mean that you've worked 28 straight days then fair enough. If though you mean that you've worked 4 x 5-day weeks and taken weekends off, then that's what's known as a "normal working week" and nothing to brag about....

He wasn't bragging - just answering someone else's wonderings with regards to time taken off. Of course, as you say, being only 4 weeks in doesn't put you in a good position to be asking for time off with no notice.

[meridian]

Well this was my 4th week here and i never took a day off .....

If you mean that you've worked 28 straight days then fair enough. If though you mean that you've worked 4 x 5-day weeks and taken weekends off, then that's what's known as a "normal working week" and nothing to brag about....

[d000hg]

Glad I cheered you up.

Though don't say your grandmother or grandfather has died unless you have a few of them.....

You only get 4 grandparents. But there's no limit to how many cats you can have.

[tractor]

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Glad I cheered you up.

Though don't say your grandmother or grandfather has died unless you have a few of them.....

Sadly, I don't have any more so I guess I have at least 4 excuses that are true forever.

[SueEllen]

I have to say SueEllen, that is the funniest thing I have read here and I am still

Glad I cheered you up.

Though don't say your grandmother or grandfather has died unless you have a few of them.....

[tractor]

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If they pry further just give say it won't happen again because the person is dead.....

OK you can say something less drastic but death normally shuts people up.

I have to say SueEllen, that is the funniest thing I have read here and I am still

[tractor]

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Well this was my 4th week here and i never took a day off .....

All i wanted to know was, can client do this and if i can do anything aginst it.

Why is this thread turning out to be guess the emergency thread !!

Because in your own desription of what happened, you sounded quite arrogant and unhelpful to your client. Sorry but that's the way you described it. If it was truly a medical or other very important emergency you would have included it in your OP and probably since. As you have chosen not to elaborate, people will make their own mind up. You should understand that many of us have seen lots of this stuff before and often, there is more to it than meets the eye.

[TheFaQQer]

A question to the rest. How did you manage to get rid of the 'Unsatisfactory performance of contractor' clause from your respective contracts?

If you haven't, aren't you in the same boat?

Explain that it is meaningless because they can always just cancel the work and tell you to leave anyway - you get paid for what work you do, not what is in your notice period.

Have a zero days notice period from the client (or a short notice period) which means that they have no need to terminate for "unsatisfactory performance".

Quite often, it's not the case of having it removed, it's the case of understanding what you are accepting and whether you think that is a risk factor for you to consider or not.

[FatLazyContractor]

A question to the rest. How did you manage to get rid of the 'Unsatisfactory performance of contractor' clause from your respective contracts?

If you haven't, aren't you in the same boat?

[jmo21]

The overconfident contractor used to think he is the boss, or the cold hearthed customer not capable of compassion.

This.

Most of the regulars are currently very suspicious of your "emergency" the way you have presented it.

Regarless, emergency or not, they STILL can let you go as described if a real emergency doesn't suit them.

Harsh? Yep.

Binning you when they say there are tight timescales and that is the reason they don't want you to take time off? Something a bit funny there if you ask me.

Perfectly valid contractually? Well without seeing your contract, the only answer we can give is maybe, but given the type of contracts we commonly work under, it is probably perfectly valid.