Reply to: Barnier orders UK to obey EU rules

[vetran]

But the UK eats cows and sheep so why is a horse different?

We hopefully don't eat Cows & Sheep with banned substances in.

Horsemeat raised for human consumption is fine.

[vetran]

'they' didn't put horsemeat into the food. It was the act of criminals.

And of course it goes both ways - we have signed a legally binding international treaty. It's just that the brexidiots think that we can break a treaty with no consequences. They are wrong.

It was the act of criminals that the EU failed to prevent maybe if they had washed them in Chlorine?


EU ministers call for emergency testing amid horsemeat scandal | News | DW | 13.02.2013

EU ministers call for emergency testing amid horsemeat scandal

European Union ministers have called for more intensive meat product testing for a month amid a growing scandal involving horsemeat being sold as beef. The affair led to food recalls across the continent.

Horsemeat scandal: where did the 29% horse in your Tesco burger come from? | Horsemeat scandal | The Guardian

The Guardian has discovered that the company bought some of its meat from a Dutch businessman called Willy Selten via a trader who could have been a source. Selten ran a meat cutting plant in the town of Oss, south of Rotterdam. In May, he was arrested by the Dutch authorities on suspicion of fraud and false accounting, when official tests on boxes of meat labelled as beef taken from his factory found horse DNA in 21% of them.

[darmstadt]

The UK is a civilised country; apologies for the inconvenience, and do feel free to feck off to somewhere that isn't.

But the UK eats cows and sheep so why is a horse different?

[Mordac]

Originally Posted by Eirikur View Post
And what is wrong with horsemeat (as long as it is declared properly on the packaging)? It is delicious and still wonder why I can't get it here in the UK.

The UK is a civilised country; apologies for the inconvenience, and do feel free to feck off to somewhere that isn't.

[Whorty]

And what is wrong with horsemeat (as long as it is declared properly on the packaging)? It is delicious and still wonder why I can't get it here in the UK.

I wasn't making a judgement on horsemeat, purely that the evil EU 'they' didn't do it as was insinuated; it was the act of criminals.

[Mordac]

Nor has Barnier

Certainly not now. He's gone off to 'serve France' - some would argue he's been doing that for years.

[Eirikur]

'they' didn't put horsemeat into the food. It was the act of criminals.

And of course it goes both ways - we have signed a legally binding international treaty. It's just that the brexidiots think that we can break a treaty with no consequences. They are wrong.

And what is wrong with horsemeat (as long as it is declared properly on the packaging)? It is delicious and still wonder why I can't get it here in the UK.

[Whorty]

Hopefully it goes both ways and we can keep horse meat out of their meat we import etc.

Oh sorry when we were a member they ignored that sort of tulip.

'they' didn't put horsemeat into the food. It was the act of criminals.

And of course it goes both ways - we have signed a legally binding international treaty. It's just that the brexidiots think that we can break a treaty with no consequences. They are wrong.

[Whorty]

Tabloid newspapers saying he was about to be sidelined doesn't mean he was sidelined. The UK caved in the end.

If you don't believe me, just look at how the fish industry was shafted.

That's not true .. they got what they voted for, they've regressed back 30 years

[darmstadt]

Neither has imposed any laws upon the UK, nor did they ever have the power to do so.

Nor has Barnier

[Mordac]

Was the Brexit negotiator David Frost voted into office? Was Dominic Cummings voted into office?

Neither has imposed any laws upon the UK, nor did they ever have the power to do so.

[darmstadt]

If he is, that may go some way as to understanding why we voted to leave. Nobody has ever had the opportunity to vote him into office. Or indeed vote him out of office. Maybe we could have voted for the people who appointed him into office? No, nothing doing there either...

Was the Brexit negotiator David Frost voted into office? Was Dominic Cummings voted into office?

[Mordac]

I suspect the UK government will leak proposals to the press to see if Barnier approves them.

The question is, is Barnier the most powerful politician in the UK?

If he is, that may go some way as to understanding why we voted to leave. Nobody has ever had the opportunity to vote him into office. Or indeed vote him out of office. Maybe we could have voted for the people who appointed him into office? No, nothing doing there either...

[AtW]

UK talking of breaking treaty even before it was ratified isn’t going to give good impressions to the committees - it would be sensible to delay ratification for 2-3, pending UKs behavior

[darmstadt]

I don't, but never mind that. Fisheries is a bit of a mess, I agree, but (a) it was always going to be one given who owns the quotas and (b) it's a miniscule part of the whole and (c) most of the issues are around paperwork which, needless to say, both sides are extremely good at creating...

Meanwhile Barnier remains in charge of an EU committee that has no further point while the French think he is their expert on the issues around the new relationship but I suspect the rest of the EU37 don't agree.

Unlike the UK which ratified the WA with MPs only having a couple of hours to read it, the European Parliament still have to sign it off so there may well be further discussions. In fact committees from both sides are still having discussions and will continue to do so for quite some time which means this sub-forum is pretty much still valid sadly.