Reply to: Could Brexit signal the end of the road for second-home owners in Europe?

[Mordac]

And some people believed the Brexit lies

Reasons to leave the EU, objections answered and alternatives |

That wasn't a lie. We could have applied to remain in EFTA. In my opinion we should have done. We didn't though.

[WTFH]

Well, there's always the twisted take on it...


It's not a new rule.
Expat = immigrant.
It's the will of the Wailers, remember?

[Paddy]

What would happen if you own a chalet in Switzerland and a house or two in your name in the UK?

You would pay a lot of council tax

[WTFH]

What would happen if you own a chalet in Switzerland and a house or two in your name in the UK?

[Paddy]

And some people believed the Brexit lies

And some people believed the Brexit lies

Reasons to leave the EU, objections answered and alternatives |

Objection 11: British expats living in EU countries and EU citizens living in the UK would lose out
This claim is not grounded in legal fact, as the Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties 1969 contains articles that are based on ‘acquired rights’, which individuals build up over time and hold despite any changes in future treaties enacted by their nation.

The cost of healthcare abroad is provided by the NHS not the EU as some people mistakenly believe. So this is not an issue either.

For more details see Emigration: Why British expats have nothing to fear from Brexit

Objection 12: Loss of freedom of movement of people between UK and other EU states
Obviously this is of particular concern to UK citizens living in other EU states, or those who desire to live in other EU states, for example students and pensioners.

However, it is possible that the UK would join EFTA and remain in the EEA or have an implementation period, after leaving the EU. All EFTA countries have the same freedom of movement rules as EU countries. Assuming the UK remains in the EEA, freedom of movement would be unaffected.

Even if the UK does not remain in the EEA following Brexit, or uses this as a stepping stone to later full UK independence (with trading agreements with the EU), it is entirely possible that the UK could negotiate free trade with the UK which may include a freedom of movement agreement with the EU, as Switzerland has done.

[Paddy]

And some people believed the Brexit lies

And some people believed the Brexit lies

Reasons to leave the EU, objections answered and alternatives |

Objection 11: British expats living in EU countries and EU citizens living in the UK would lose out
This claim is not grounded in legal fact, as the Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties 1969 contains articles that are based on ‘acquired rights’, which individuals build up over time and hold despite any changes in future treaties enacted by their nation.

The cost of healthcare abroad is provided by the NHS not the EU as some people mistakenly believe. So this is not an issue either.

For more details see Emigration: Why British expats have nothing to fear from Brexit

Objection 12: Loss of freedom of movement of people between UK and other EU states
Obviously this is of particular concern to UK citizens living in other EU states, or those who desire to live in other EU states, for example students and pensioners.

However, it is possible that the UK would join EFTA and remain in the EEA or have an implementation period, after leaving the EU. All EFTA countries have the same freedom of movement rules as EU countries. Assuming the UK remains in the EEA, freedom of movement would be unaffected.

Even if the UK does not remain in the EEA following Brexit, or uses this as a stepping stone to later full UK independence (with trading agreements with the EU), it is entirely possible that the UK could negotiate free trade with the UK which may include a freedom of movement agreement with the EU, as Switzerland has done.

[AtW]

In different cantons?

On the same street - to make it a hotel!

[ladymuck]

So its like then just buy 4 houses, right Gov?

In different cantons?

[AtW]

The clue's in the name, 'no claims'. Not sure how you manage to qualify, unless you drove away very quickly in your seriously damaged what-used-to-be-a-car...

The other guilty party who was responsible for causing accident paid in full damages including my excess, insurance company had to file court case tho because Hastings allegedly are arseholes who don’t pay up when asked nicely.

I’ve got protected no claims anyway, fooked up Mor Onic system pf car insurance in this country - NCB linked to 1 car, rather than driver WTF

[Mordac]

No claims bonus, innit?

The clue's in the name, 'no claims'. Not sure how you manage to qualify, unless you drove away very quickly in your seriously damaged what-used-to-be-a-car...

[AtW]

I'm somewhat surprised your car insurance is less than that. Walls cost a fortune to rebuild, y'know...

No claims bonus, innit?

[Mordac]

Yeah, private insurance... oh wait - the Govt seconded private hospitals to support Nhs and in any case Nhs doctors often do the private operations...

Say my private insurance costs me 300-400 per month, a lot less than car insurance which is kind of telling that I should not expect much (from both)

I'm somewhat surprised your car insurance is less than that. Walls cost a fortune to rebuild, y'know...

[AtW]

second home owners depending on the NHS? Anyone with some income and capital has a private insurance,

Yeah, private insurance... oh wait - the Govt seconded private hospitals to support Nhs and in any case Nhs doctors often do the private operations...

Say my private insurance costs me 300-400 per month, a lot less than car insurance which is kind of telling that I should not expect much (from both)

[Mordac]

People buy property in Switzerland thinking it'll entitle them to live here. It doesn't. But you can get a 3 month tourist visa.

What if you're Phil Collins?

[Eirikur]

“ and lose their NHS provision back home –

second home owners depending on the NHS? Anyone with some income and capital has a private insurance,