Reply to: No 10 refuse to sign up to EU-wide pandemic warning system

[vetran]

It will help kill off the Germans who caused Brexit in the first place....

FTFY

[Whorty]

Probably because they can't be arsed being villified by bigoted morons who have labelled all Brexiters as racist.

You do see the irony of your post, surely?

[LondonManc]

Always would

I'm not ashamed how I voted. And yet, I rarely meet anyone who admits to voting out unless they have the anonymity of a forum like this.

Probably because they can't be arsed being villified by bigoted morons who have labelled all Brexiters as racist.

[Whorty]

Ah, the old 'let's compare international agreements to something immediate and down-to-earth, based on no evidence other than our own prejudices' bollocks. What nostalgia.

"Senior health advisers warned that exiting the EWRS – which has helped coordinate the response to the virus and played a vital role during the bird flu outbreak – would put public health at risk.

However, the British negotiating team, which reports to Boris Johnson, did not want to blur the UK's request for a basic, Canada-style trade deal, it is claimed. Every add-on requested by the UK would risk giving the EU leverage to demand post-Brexit alignment....

Separately, The Telegraph understands that Mr Hancock sought permission early last month to travel to Brussels to discuss coronavirus with his EU counterparts, but was refused by Downing Street."
Peter Foster in the Telegraph (the only journalist there worth reading)

For the sake of the argument, let's say you're right, and it's not worth subscribing to. (There is no evidence for this, by the way). I'm sure it's not the only such international agreement the UK is signed up to. But it is *palpably* not the reason for No 10's refusal. Given they've identified the Coronavirus as something which, malhandled, could topple the government, I have no doubt they'd love to sign up if it didn't have the word 'Euro' anywhere near it.

So back to the original point of posting, Brexit is causing policy to be driven by lunacy.

You're making the fatal mistake of thinking quitters like Mordac work to evidence, logic, reason and facts; they don't. They are driven by xenophobia, hatred, fear and fake news.

[Whorty]

I have a mirror for that. Plus I wouldn't want you to waste the price of a stamp. Donate the money to a charity of your choice. Wishing you well.

Oh yeah, you sound successful

[zerosum]

No 10 is refusing to sign up because it's a pile of wank. Period. It didn't work before, it won't work in the future, and it will always be a pile of wank. It's a bit like paying for insurance against being abducted by aliens. You can buy it if you want, but everyone will think you're an absolute arse.

Ah, the old 'let's compare international agreements to something immediate and down-to-earth, based on no evidence other than our own prejudices' bollocks. What nostalgia.

"Senior health advisers warned that exiting the EWRS – which has helped coordinate the response to the virus and played a vital role during the bird flu outbreak – would put public health at risk.

However, the British negotiating team, which reports to Boris Johnson, did not want to blur the UK's request for a basic, Canada-style trade deal, it is claimed. Every add-on requested by the UK would risk giving the EU leverage to demand post-Brexit alignment....

Separately, The Telegraph understands that Mr Hancock sought permission early last month to travel to Brussels to discuss coronavirus with his EU counterparts, but was refused by Downing Street."
Peter Foster in the Telegraph (the only journalist there worth reading)

For the sake of the argument, let's say you're right, and it's not worth subscribing to. (There is no evidence for this, by the way). I'm sure it's not the only such international agreement the UK is signed up to. But it is *palpably* not the reason for No 10's refusal. Given they've identified the Coronavirus as something which, malhandled, could topple the government, I have no doubt they'd love to sign up if it didn't have the word 'Euro' anywhere near it.

So back to the original point of posting, Brexit is causing policy to be driven by lunacy.

[Mordac]

Yes.


Nope


I know


Thanks. Not that I need your admiration, but thanks all the same.


OK


Already have fella. Want me to send you a postcard, so you can see what success looks like?

I have a mirror for that. Plus I wouldn't want you to waste the price of a stamp. Donate the money to a charity of your choice. Wishing you well.

[darmstadt]

"Yes I know we're using EWRS now but after we've finished sorting out the deal then the UK will no longer be affected by any virus from abroad as we will be well and truly an island far far away from any such infestation.

I suspect a lot of people don't actually read the papers properly or just skip the bits under the big bold words at the top but the UK is still a member of EWRS and will only leave once the transition period is over. The DoH have even said:

"The Department of Health pitched for continued access to the EWRS to be an objective of the negotiations, but it was blocked because they didn't want to be accused of seeking more than the basic Canada deal."

...

Health officials believe leaving the EWRS would put public health at risk, pointing out that it has helped to coordinate the response to the virus, as well as SARS and the bird flu outbreak.

[Whorty]

You think I'm an arse.

Yes.

You may think you speak for everyone

Nope

but let's face it mate, you don't.

I know

I admire your ambition though.

Thanks. Not that I need your admiration, but thanks all the same.

Crack on

OK

you'll get somewhere someday...

Already have fella. Want me to send you a postcard, so you can see what success looks like?

[Mordac]

Everyone thinks you're an absolute arse anyway, so just go with the flow fella

You think I'm an arse. You may think you speak for everyone, but let's face it mate, you don't. I admire your ambition though. Crack on, you'll get somewhere someday...

[Whorty]

No 10 is refusing to sign up because it's a pile of wank. Period. It didn't work before, it won't work in the future, and it will always be a pile of wank. It's a bit like paying for insurance against being abducted by aliens. You can buy it if you want, but everyone will think you're an absolute arse.

Everyone thinks you're an absolute arse anyway, so just go with the flow fella

[Whorty]

Ummm given this started in China wouldn't being part of a 'Worldwide' Pandemic warning system be better....

If only there was some sort of World Health Organisation....

Oh hang on a second ..

wait a minute

I mean this came out at the end of January

You are so gullible. Go on, try to find the same document on the WHO site and not just some gammon magnet fake site

Glad to see Mordac and Platypus liked the post ... seems you're not the only gullible idiot at least

[Mordac]

That's all extremely debatable, but it's a redundant analysis anyway; no 10 is not refusing to sign up because of some critique of the system, but because it breaches red lines. Anything vaguely connected with Euro is banned, as the gammonate clamour for their daily portion of red meat.

No 10 is refusing to sign up because it's a pile of wank. Period. It didn't work before, it won't work in the future, and it will always be a pile of wank. It's a bit like paying for insurance against being abducted by aliens. You can buy it if you want, but everyone will think you're an absolute arse.

[original PM]

Dept of Health wanted U.K. to pitch to remain part of EU pandemic ‘EWRS’ early warning system after #brexit - but Number Ten said “no” to preserve ‘red lines’.

https://twitter.com/pmdfoster/status...530656768?s=21

The asinine stupidity of it isn’t even shocking any more.


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Ummm given this started in China wouldn't being part of a 'Worldwide' Pandemic warning system be better....

If only there was some sort of World Health Organisation....

Oh hang on a second ..

wait a minute

I mean this came out at the end of January

[HoofHearted]

Who cares about a pandemic? It only affects pandas....

There could be pandamonium though