Reply to: Where can i go to get out of the UK

[scooterscot]

UK representative democracy died on the same day the referendum was called. If the last 3-4 years have shown us anything it is the UK parliament no longer works. Ironically supporters of leave used the last election as confirmation of the referendum result.

Freddie Mercury was once asked, what instrument do you play? The audience darling, came the reply. This is what Boris does to the electorate. Tells them what they want to hear. Much like Thumps voting base (like the Trump voting bankrupt Montana farmers sitting on a mountain of Soya with no one to sell it to). Vote for the soundbites, forget about the consequences.

Jim Jefferies speech from 4 years ago.. he was spot on.

[shaunbhoy]

But the facts are just starting to come out.

The facts came out on December 12th. The most glaring of them being that the electorate at large were acutely aware that their wish to LEAVE the EU had been getting thwarted every step of the way by whining politico Bremoaners in Parliament.

The necessary steps were taken by the voters and now it is full steam ahead...............at least on the planet that most of us still live on.
Maybe you could give us the view from Planet Deludia?

[Cirrus]

Hang on to the dream. You'll soon have to wake up.

If only we could have a People's Vote.

We've had three and a half years with no facts whatsoever. But the facts are just starting to come out.

It's a ticking timebomb. When it all kicks off, don't count your chickens PaperBhoy

[shaunbhoy]

others simply thought Jezza must be the Devil incarnate so they best put a lying buffoon in charge of this great nation.

Well that is certainly one way of looking at it. Entirely speculative of course, but if it fits your cranky narrative knock yourself out.

Despite everything, the majority is for staying in the EU (at 52%)

If only we could have a People's Vote..................

[Cirrus]

A recent poll(the GE) indicated that we, as a nation, are still heavily in favour of leaving the EU

You would have thought so but once again, PaperBhoy, you would be wrong. You personally may have voted for Brexit but others simply thought Jezza must be the Devil incarnate so they best put a lying buffoon in charge of this great nation. Weird but we've learnt how utterly barmy the electorate is inclined to be. Despite everything, the majority is for staying in the EU (at 52%)

[shaunbhoy]

95% of them have. Only 5% have come to the UK since 2008. I hope that puts your mind at rest.

Reliable statistics and figures from a trusted source might do, but the random vapid outpourings of your zany imagination are, like so many of your "contributions", entirely worthless.

HTH BIDI

[NotAllThere]

And someone really ought to remind all of these raft-clinging immigrants that by continuing to blow their life savings striving to get to Blighty, they are in fact unwittingly bypassing all of these supposed Nirvanas stretched across most of western europe, all of which can be reached for far less financial outlay.
They clearly haven't researched matters properly.

95% of them have. Only 5% have come to the UK since 2008. I hope that puts your mind at rest.

[shaunbhoy]

A recent poll(the GE) indicated that we, as a nation, are still heavily in favour of leaving the EU

It's a complete travesty of course as within the innumerable collection of pompous London-centric self-righteous social media bubbles, the urge to Remain continues to grumble along at fever pitch. Aided and abetted by umpteen gurning expats that nobody cares much about.

And someone really ought to remind all of these raft-clinging immigrants that by continuing to blow their life savings striving to get to Blighty, they are in fact unwittingly bypassing all of these supposed Nirvanas stretched across most of western europe, all of which can be reached for far less financial outlay.
They clearly haven't researched matters properly.

[LondonManc]

You're not the first that I've heard looking for the exit.

The leavers pretend the country is united post election. Truth is it remains sorely divided, with years of recovery ahead before any possibility of economic prosperity.

Life is short, why be part of the Whateverspoons homemade depression?

[darmstadt]

And yet, if being in the EU equates to "power" then these are rated below the UK in that list

Czech Republic 9
Slovakia 10
Hungary 10
Slovenia 11
Latvia 11
Estonia 12
Poland 14

So the UK does have more "power" than [some] other European countries.

I was thinking about visa free travel, although the media likes to equate that number with "power".

It will be interesting to see how many countries the UK loses (in terms of visa-free travel) after the transition.

Possibly, at least 27 European ones...

[Platypus]

More what? More power, if so then you're wrong according to the survey:

And yet, if being in the EU equates to "power" then these are rated below the UK in that list

Czech Republic 9
Slovakia 10
Hungary 10
Slovenia 11
Latvia 11
Estonia 12
Poland 14

So the UK does have more "power" than [some] other European countries.

I was thinking about visa free travel, although the media likes to equate that number with "power".

It will be interesting to see how many countries the UK loses (in terms of visa-free travel) after the transition.

[eek]

No, we're not doomed yet... £250k gets you a holiday home in Portugal and an EU passport.

Just sayin' like...

+ low tax on none local income from memory.

[wattaj]

No, we're not doomed yet... £250k gets you a holiday home in Portugal and an EU passport.

Just sayin' like...

[darmstadt]

And yet the UK has more than other European countries. So we're not doomed yet.

More what? More power, if so then you're wrong according to the survey:

Japan 1 Singapore 2
South Korea 3
Germany 3
Italy 4
Finland 4
Spain 5
Luxembourg 5
Denmark 5
Sweden 6
France 6
Switzerland 7
Portugal 7
Netherlands 7
Ireland 7
Austria 7
United States 8
United Kingdom 8
Norway 8
Greece 8
Belgium 8

However once the new blue UK passports printed by a French company in Poland get through the trade barriers that might be in place, then it is sure to be no. 1 again.

[Platypus]

I'd hop to it if I were you...

UK passport drops to sixth in global power index

And yet the UK has more than some (but not all) other European countries. So we're not doomed yet.


EDIT: added "some (but not all)" for clarity, even though that should have been clear, but apparently not ffs