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Previously on "Supreme Court hearing"

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  • Mordac
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    Originally posted by DaveB View Post
    So it would appear that Boris doesn't actually give a tulip about the Supreme Court, he'll just do it again anyway.

    Dominic Casciani on Twitter: "IMPORTANT: Government's submission to the Supreme Court tells judges that if they rule against Mr Johnson and quash prorogation of Parliament - he might just go and do it again:… https://t.co/xtyG17xkra"

    From the written submission to the court from the government suggesting what the court may do if it finds the prorogation illegal.

    We don't have a written constitution, so as bizarre as it sounds, the ruling only applies to the current prorogation, not any subsequent prorogation. He can do it again, perfectly legally, and Mr Major (ironically, the last PM to prorogue Parliament for slightly nefarious reasons) can go swivel, or pay for his lawyer's next luxury holiday.

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  • DaveB
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    So it would appear that Boris doesn't actually give a tulip about the Supreme Court, he'll just do it again anyway.

    Dominic Casciani on Twitter: "IMPORTANT: Government's submission to the Supreme Court tells judges that if they rule against Mr Johnson and quash prorogation of Parliament - he might just go and do it again:… https://t.co/xtyG17xkra"

    From the written submission to the court from the government suggesting what the court may do if it finds the prorogation illegal.

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  • sasguru
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    Originally posted by Mordac View Post
    Your poor grasp of logic has let you down again.

    HTH, BIDI.

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  • Mordac
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    Originally posted by sasguru View Post
    Wrong I'm afraid.

    Fact Check: Did UK’s ‘better educated’ vote Remain? | The Week UK
    https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...76268018301320

    But one doesn't really need to read those articles, the CUK thicko Brexiters make the case themselves

    I look forward to a hard Brexit.

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  • sasguru
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    Originally posted by vetran View Post
    Again you suggest that remainers are better educated but that is not agreed by experts just the desperate lying about statistics.
    Wrong I'm afraid.

    Fact Check: Did UK’s ‘better educated’ vote Remain? | The Week UK
    https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...76268018301320

    But one doesn't really need to read those articles, the CUK thicko Brexiters make the case themselves

    I look forward to a hard Brexit.

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  • BrilloPad
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    Originally posted by scooterscot View Post
    And yet the majority of immigration to the UK comes from outside the EU.
    And I bet none of the immigrants are obese.

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  • Zigenare
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    Originally posted by scooterscot View Post
    And yet the majority of immigration to the UK comes from outside the EU.

    Sorry, you were saying something about stupidity?
    It's not the quantity, it's the who says how many and from where.

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  • scooterscot
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    Originally posted by vetran View Post
    Being pro poorly managed or serviced immigration is definitely a sign of stupidity..
    And yet the majority of immigration to the UK comes from outside the EU.

    Sorry, you were saying something about stupidity?

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  • vetran
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    Originally posted by sasguru View Post
    You were making sense until, typically, you reverted to type and typed this piece of nonsense.
    Clearly you can't see the difference between the (admittedly imperfect) EU and the Nazis, Pol Pot, Venezuela and so on.
    And like a typical Brexiter you talk of "winning".
    The funny thing is that Leavers, who are better educated than Brexiters on average, will cope with Brexit much better.
    Your "winning" means your children will not have as many opportunities as they could have.

    Well done. Enjoy your "winning".

    A country in which 1/8 new diagnoses of Diabetes are in under 40s due to obesity (as reported today), is, believe me, not on the verge on winning anything.

    Well as I didn't suggest there was any alignment to the Nazis, Pol Pot etc it was you that did that, it is you that sounds stupid. Interestingly enough you point to right wing regimes but the EU is most frequently compared to communism by those in the know.

    Mildly tweaking the remainer's noses is permitted if not encouraged.

    The precise point I made was that nobody knows what the outcome will be left, right, up down the jury is still out! However the majority don't want the status quo and that is a fact.

    Of course you present some grade A whataboutery so you can feel like you win.

    Again you suggest that remainers are better educated but that is not agreed by experts just the desperate lying about statistics.

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  • Old Greg
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    Originally posted by vetran View Post
    The problem is you seem confuse being a liberal with being a doormat.




    I and many others are happy to respect positive (to the whole community) behaviour or opinions that are different to my own. I don't support the misogyny of some religions or the Misandry of some beliefs.

    Failing to challenge negative behaviour is not a sign of intelligence, things YOU dismiss as connected with being right wing in your mind are not necessarily bad in the mind of the majority of voters or experts.

    Being pro poorly managed or serviced immigration is definitely a sign of stupidity.

    Not wishing to be part of an underhand, militaristic,authoritarian, federal Europe is not racist or stupid in the minds of the voters. It may be so in yours but I am happy to respect your different opinion despite you losing the vote and not getting over it .

    All change should be managed and decisions of a government should be beneficial to its people as a whole.

    I am not sure you can say the majority of decisions by the last 20+ years of governments have made the UK a better place overall.

    The 'American definition of Liberalism' just seems ridiculous. I agree sharing resources in pursuit of a common goal (e.g. world peace or the furtherance of the human race) makes sense, but there have to be some rules about how the participants behave otherwise its likely any altruism will be repaid with contempt and abuse by recipients. That is human nature and why we have armies & prisons. So unbounded liberalism is obvious folly.
    Proroguing and defying parliament will teach those continental Europeans to stick their authoritarianism where the sun don't shine.

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  • sasguru
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    Originally posted by vetran View Post
    Not wishing to be part of an underhand, militaristic,authoritarian, federal Europe is not racist or stupid in the minds of the voters. It may be so in yours but I am happy to respect your different opinion despite you losing the vote and not getting over it .
    .
    You were making sense until, typically, you reverted to type and typed this piece of nonsense.
    Clearly you can't see the difference between the (admittedly imperfect) EU and the Nazis, Pol Pot, Venezuela and so on.
    And like a typical Brexiter you talk of "winning".
    The funny thing is that Leavers, who are better educated than Brexiters on average, will cope with Brexit much better.
    Your "winning" means your children will not have as many opportunities as they could have.

    Well done. Enjoy your "winning".

    A country in which 1/8 new diagnoses of Diabetes are in under 40s due to obesity (as reported today), is, believe me, not on the verge on winning anything.
    Last edited by sasguru; 18 September 2019, 19:09.

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  • vetran
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    Originally posted by scooterscot View Post
    Time and time again it has been proven liberals are smarter than those on the right.


    Why Liberals and Atheists Are More Intelligent

    The problem is you seem confuse being a liberal with being a doormat.


    liberal

    /ˈlɪb(ə)r(ə)l/

    • 1.willing to respect or accept behaviour or opinions different from one's own; open to new ideas.
    • 2.(of education) concerned with broadening a person's general knowledge and experience, rather than with technical or professional training.

    I and many others are happy to respect positive (to the whole community) behaviour or opinions that are different to my own. I don't support the misogyny of some religions or the Misandry of some beliefs.

    Failing to challenge negative behaviour is not a sign of intelligence, things YOU dismiss as connected with being right wing in your mind are not necessarily bad in the mind of the majority of voters or experts.

    Being pro poorly managed or serviced immigration is definitely a sign of stupidity.

    Not wishing to be part of an underhand, militaristic,authoritarian, federal Europe is not racist or stupid in the minds of the voters. It may be so in yours but I am happy to respect your different opinion despite you losing the vote and not getting over it .

    All change should be managed and decisions of a government should be beneficial to its people as a whole.

    I am not sure you can say the majority of decisions by the last 20+ years of governments have made the UK a better place overall.

    The 'American definition of Liberalism' just seems ridiculous. I agree sharing resources in pursuit of a common goal (e.g. world peace or the furtherance of the human race) makes sense, but there have to be some rules about how the participants behave otherwise its likely any altruism will be repaid with contempt and abuse by recipients. That is human nature and why we have armies & prisons. So unbounded liberalism is obvious folly.

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  • Old Greg
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    Originally posted by BrilloPad View Post
    If Old Greg ever called me intelligent I would be very worried.
    You needn't worry.

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  • BrilloPad
    replied
    Originally posted by scooterscot View Post
    Time and time again it has been proven liberals are smarter than those on the right.


    Why Liberals and Atheists Are More Intelligent
    If Old Greg ever called me intelligent I would be very worried.

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  • scooterscot
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    Originally posted by Old Greg View Post
    Scooty is the exception that proves the rule: 'Remainers are cleverer than leavers.'

    Time and time again it has been proven liberals are smarter than those on the right.


    Why Liberals and Atheists Are More Intelligent

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