Reply to: So if Boris can't get a GE?

[Old Greg]

Does he need help?

The Tory gammons haven't twigged yet.

[Old Greg]

Latest hypotheses I've seen:

• Boris has a "different interpretation" of the law and secures long enough delay it's November
• Boris asks someone (Macron?) to vote against accepting the extension request, since we need unanimous assent
• Boris sends the request, then sends another letter "please disregard previous letter"

Some of these may have him picking Her Majesty's soap off the floor.

[d000hg]

Latest hypotheses I've seen:

• Boris has a "different interpretation" of the law and secures long enough delay it's November
• Boris asks someone (Macron?) to vote against accepting the extension request, since we need unanimous assent
• Boris sends the request, then sends another letter "please disregard previous letter"

[AtW]

I get the impression that Amber Rudd simply wants to be involved on the project to humiliate Boris and turn him into an ineffectual buffoon. The speech the other day was absolutely awful, one of his worst.

That project been done and dusted decades ago.

[BrilloPad]

I get the impression that Amber Rudd simply wants to be involved on the project to humiliate Boris and turn him into an ineffectual buffoon.

Does he need help?

[BlasterBates]

I get the impression that Amber Rudd simply wants to be involved on the project to humiliate Boris and turn him into an ineffectual buffoon. The speech the other day was absolutely awful, one of his worst.

[BlasterBates]

Not if parliament legislates to change that.

Indeed the opposition now has a cohesive majority not under the Tory whip. Boris has no chance. They will humiliate him until he resigns and then replace him with either Corbyn or an alternative until an election in November. Boris is now sinking in the polls, 4% down and Labour is up 4%. The more he his humiliated the further he sinks.

[Old Greg]

No, negotiating with foreign powers is a royal prerogative and therefore within the remit of BJ as a minister.

Not if parliament legislates to change that.

[jamesbrown]

Also depends on how well the Act is drafted. Grieve et al. are well-known for being a bit thick on that front, but they had a lot of help this time and probably spent months drafting the Bill. Unlikely to be a lawful way around it, but we'll see.

[jamesbrown]

No, negotiating with foreign powers is a royal prerogative and therefore within the remit of BJ as a minister.

Also, in vetoing an extension he would be acting entirely within EU law, which takes precedence over UK law.

The snag is if the current ridiculous "No No Deal" law receives royal assent then HMQ is unlikely to want to consent to an action whose result would be the opposite, especially as the Tories no longer have a majority in Parliament.

Royal prerogative is in abeyance to statute (that was established back in the early part of the 20th century, IIRC).

A50 dictates that the departing state has no veto on a Council decision.

It's debatable whether they could block RA, but probably won't.

(I'm a leaver, BTW, but you need to understand the reality)

[OwlHoot]

My thoughts too. If extension offers, and parliament insists extension is taken, then Boris has to take it? ..

No, negotiating with foreign powers is a royal prerogative and therefore within the remit of BJ as a minister.

Also, in vetoing an extension he would be acting entirely within EU law, which takes precedence over UK law.

The snag is if the current ridiculous "No No Deal" law receives royal assent then HMQ is unlikely to want to consent to an action whose result would be the opposite, especially as the Tories no longer have a majority in Parliament.

[BR14]

And for your information its the Wirral.....

a Posh scally then, eh?

[BrilloPad]

You're a scouser, in drag!

And for your information its the Wirral.....

[Zigenare]

Do you mind! Us Welsh have plenty of quality yobs....

You're a scouser, in drag!

[BrilloPad]

You even behave like an English yob.

Do you mind! Us Welsh have plenty of quality yobs....