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Even with a no deal Brexit freedom of movement won't end until a new immigration law is passed, and the government doesn't currently have a majority. Any law they try and put through will be hijacked and have all sorts of non-Brexity horrible amendments attached.
This means even with the chaos of crashing out EU citizens can continue to "mass migrate".
But fully bound by its rules, and under the jurisdiction of the ECJ, no say over fishing rights in UK waters, unable to pursue any trade deals, and no guarantee of any trade deal with the EU. It's the sh!ttiest deal in history. The point of leaving was to have none of those restrictions, and while we're still technically handcuffed to the EU I don't consider to have "left".
Looks like you’ve swallowed a pack of lies.
Fully bound by rules and the ECJ for the period of transition only, while we get our house in order. Same for fishing (though I don’t know why Brexiters keep banging on about fishing, it’s de minimus). We can pursue trade deals, just not sign them, so of course we can get them ready to sign on the first day after transition ends.
“No guarantee of any trade deal with the EU”? That’s an odd one, there’s no guarantee of anything anyway. Firstly, you wanted the U.K. to walk alone, but now you’re fretting over not having any guarantee of a trade deal? Secondly, that was the point of the transition period, to negotiate the future relationship. Easing out of the EU, rather than crashing out.
After transition, the U.K. would then be as you want it - no longer bound by the ECJ, able to make your own trade deals (with all the compromises that go with them, of course...). If the U.K. went the way that you wanted (EFTA) then the backstop doesn’t need to be triggered.
I had an uncle, sadly passed away now, who was black belt in karate and used to teach locally (I seem to recall he was 5th dan) - didn't stop me from windmilling in then when I got into my frequent scraps in school
But fully bound by its rules, and under the jurisdiction of the ECJ, no say over fishing rights in UK waters, unable to pursue any trade deals, and no guarantee of any trade deal with the EU. It's the sh!ttiest deal in history. The point of leaving was to have none of those restrictions, and while we're still technically handcuffed to the EU I don't consider to have "left".
And there was me thinking "Leave means leave". The people voted to not be members of the EU anymore. May's deal would have left us not members of the EU, EXACTLY as voted for in 2016.
So's having an Uncle who's a world renowned expert in Medieval History.
Hth.
I had an uncle, sadly passed away now, who was black belt in karate and used to teach locally (I seem to recall he was 5th dan) - didn't stop me from windmilling in then when I got into my frequent scraps in school
The Withdrawal Agreement fulfils both the vote, and the red lines set by May and cheered on by the Brexiters.
Legally, the U.K. will have left the EU. It’s not in dispute, it’s not “doesn’t mean actually leaving”, it’s a fact - once the WA is approved and the relevant legislation is passed, the U.K. will no longer be in the EU.
You’ve said you want to leave the EU by any means possible, this is one of those means.
But fully bound by its rules, and under the jurisdiction of the ECJ, no say over fishing rights in UK waters, unable to pursue any trade deals, and no guarantee of any trade deal with the EU. It's the sh!ttiest deal in history. The point of leaving was to have none of those restrictions, and while we're still technically handcuffed to the EU I don't consider to have "left".
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