Reply to: Are Brexiters really so insecure

[Old Greg]

Ahh then my apologies.

Accepted.

[Mordac]

Leave the EU, you have to leave the custom union and single market - it's pretty darn clear. This various different types of leave is just another tactic to try and justify not leaving or a second referendum.

This. Both sides said so during the campaign, and it was in the £9m Leaflet. MPs seem to be confusing the "Leaving" bit with the future relationship, and I would be happy if that future relationship included some sort of Customs Union, perhaps even EFTA, but we have to leave the EU first.
The EU were quite savvy in separating the two negotiations, knowing that something like this current chaos was quite likely. MPs have made it much easier for them by voting away our only serious negotiating chip. May's Treaty is terrible, and everyone knows it. How "deliberate" this is, is anyone's guess.

[woohoo]

I was trying to have a proper conversation with you, but I can see that you are not in the mood today. Another day perhaps.

Ahh then my apologies.

[Whorty]

Silk purses and sow's ears mate.

Both items you've used to spaff into when you've run out of socks

[shaunbhoy]

Darn, I thought saying you are tiresome would spur you to improve the quality of your trolling.

Silk purses and sow's ears mate.

[Old Greg]

Darn, I thought saying you are tiresome would spur you to improve the quality of your trolling.

I was trying to have a proper conversation with you, but I can see that you are not in the mood today. Another day perhaps.

[Whorty]

Why are you in denial about the clear fact the leaving the EU has a wide range of possible outcomes including EFTA membership?

Because it doesn't fit his narrow narrative

[woohoo]

Why are you in denial about the clear fact the leaving the EU has a wide range of possible outcomes including EFTA membership?

Darn, I thought saying you are tiresome would spur you to improve the quality of your trolling.

[Old Greg]

Tiresome.

Why are you in denial about the clear fact the leaving the EU has a wide range of possible outcomes including EFTA membership?

[Whorty]

This is exactly what I say to Remainers. It's brings them out in a red-faced angry flush.

Flippin gammons

[woohoo]

That sounds like you have a reason for voting against it in a second referendum. However it is still leaving the EU. A list of EU members contains the UK but not Norway. Let the people decide.

Tiresome.

[woohoo]

Goods sent into the EU need to abide by EU regulations / rules anyway, regardless.

Turkey is in a CU with the EU, do they make payments?

But that wasn’t really the point of my question. The point was, politicians need to grasp the pros and cons of every option, to decide what is best overall for the country. No point cutting off our noses to spite our face, if the best option includes a customs union.

So all our trade has to abide by the regulation, so rest of world trade needs to implement that regulation. And you have no say in it.

Also the usual democratic arguments apply blah blah.

[Old Greg]

When I said partly out I was thinking of the custom union option. But yep I would still class the Norway option as being partly out in the sense of the restrictions of being "associated" with the EU.

That sounds like you have a reason for voting against it in a second referendum. However it is still leaving the EU. A list of EU members contains the UK but not Norway. Let the people decide.

[meridian]

Goods have to abide by EU regulations/rules and you have no say in making the rules.
Membership payments.

Goods sent into the EU need to abide by EU regulations / rules anyway, regardless.

Turkey is in a CU with the EU, do they make payments?

But that wasn’t really the point of my question. The point was, politicians need to grasp the pros and cons of every option, to decide what is best overall for the country. No point cutting off our noses to spite our face, if the best option includes a customs union.

[woohoo]

What would it restrict you from doing?

Goods have to abide by EU regulations/rules and you have no say in making the rules.
Membership payments.