Reply to: May Today

[meridian]

No but once they do become a citizen of that country then they do get the right to freedom of movement in the EU?

What control do we have over who other countries make citizen of their country?

What control do you want over other countries? The Empire is dead, long live Empire v2.0.

[Old Greg]

you're in the wrong forum for facts, truth and accuracy

And capitalisation and punctuation.

[BR14]

<pedant mode> A sovereign is 20 shillings. A guinea is 21/- </pedant mode>

you're in the wrong forum for facts, truth and accuracy

[original PM]

Immigrating into an EU country does not automatically make someone a citizem of that country, and therefore of the EU.

No but once they do become a citizen of that country then they do get the right to freedom of movement in the EU?

What control do we have over who other countries make citizen of their country?

[Old Greg]

So for example each country in the EU can decide on who they will allow to immigrate to it.

And once those people are in that country they are therefore citizens of the EU and have free movement within the EU I guess?

Is that correct or not?

Immigrating into an EU country does not automatically make someone a citizem of that country, and therefore of the EU.

[original PM]

As it has always been, for EU countries when dealing with non-EU immigration.

So for example each country in the EU can decide on who they will allow to immigrate to it.

And once those people are in that country they are therefore citizens of the EU and have free movement within the EU I guess?

Is that correct or not?

[Old Greg]

As another example, one thing you will often hear is that "Remoaners" should "go to Brussels" even though they voted to ensure this is impossible.

They're just angry gammons and lashing out.

[BlasterBates]

As another example, one thing you will often hear is that "Remoaners" should "go to Brussels" even though they voted to ensure this is impossible.

[BlasterBates]

As it has always been, for EU countries when dealing with non-EU immigration.

A simple of example of why leave voters didn't understand what they were voting about.

Their understanding is that EU members are not sovereign nations that can determine their own immigration policy. This is of course completely wrong, therefore facts like these don't compute.

[meridian]

Reading through this it seems that the decision of what happens to UK nationals in current EU countries is down to the country and not it would seem as blanket decision from the EU as a whole.

Which is interesting.

As it has always been, for EU countries when dealing with non-EU immigration.

[original PM]

Reading through this it seems that the decision of what happens to UK nationals in current EU countries is down to the country and not it would seem as blanket decision from the EU as a whole.

Which is interesting.

[BR14]

Do you lot understand what sovereign decisions are?

yeh, 21 shillings each

[Whorty]

so this is fake news then?
'You can stay,' Dutch tell British nationals, 'but you will need a special permit' - DutchNews.nl

'British nationals who have lived in the Netherlands or longer than five years will be eligible for a permanent residency document and will not have to take language and other integration tests. British nationals who have lived in the Netherlands for less than five years will get a regular residency document which will enable them to continue to work. They too will be exempt from inburgering requirements. Employers will not have to apply for permits to keep their British members of staff, the minister said. Students who have already started their degree courses before Brexit will not be affected either.'

thickheaded bawbag. <klootzak, in dutch>

FFS ... the post said the Dutch were doing this, the idiot Yorkie somehow decided that it was the Germans who told the Dutch to do this. Read the thread again ... what is being said is the Dutch have made their own decision on this, as a sovereign state. The Germans may make a similar decision; both made by sovereign countries.

Do you lot understand what sovereign decisions are?

[BR14]

Ahem ok, I know it's difficult ot understand for a Yorkie
first of all it's The Netherlands
secondly they have their own government and parliament who decided this
Thirdly they are not ruled by Germany (it's not like England ruling Scotland and Wales and still thinking they rule Ireland)

so this is fake news then?
'You can stay,' Dutch tell British nationals, 'but you will need a special permit' - DutchNews.nl

'British nationals who have lived in the Netherlands or longer than five years will be eligible for a permanent residency document and will not have to take language and other integration tests. British nationals who have lived in the Netherlands for less than five years will get a regular residency document which will enable them to continue to work. They too will be exempt from inburgering requirements. Employers will not have to apply for permits to keep their British members of staff, the minister said. Students who have already started their degree courses before Brexit will not be affected either.'

thickheaded bawbag. <klootzak, in dutch>

[Eirikur]

Why would they have to leave Holland when it is the Germans, NOT THE EU, that in unilaterally threatening to revoke the right of British citizens to stay in Germany. Unless of course the German Government speaks unilaterally on behalf of the EU. In that case the case for leaving the EU is right there. We do not and never have wanted to be ruled by Germany. I we wanted that we had ample opportunity in 1939.

Ahem ok, I know it's difficult ot understand for a Yorkie
first of all it's The Netherlands
secondly they have their own government and parliament who decided this
Thirdly they are not ruled by Germany (it's not like England ruling Scotland and Wales and still thinking they rule Ireland)