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Originally posted by original PM View PostWell so long as 'parliament' understand they only exist to support the democratic will of the people all will be fine.
Originally posted by Cirrus View PostOriginal, you may have many good qualities. You may make a fine great-grandparent for example. But, in case nobody told you, you are a simpleton.
As a result you should really think twice before making remarks like the one quoted. You should first ask yourself 'Where did I get that idea from - is it written down somewhere, did somebody reliable relate to this to me?, etc. Secondly you should take some time to ponder whether this could possibly be true. Adopt the contrarian position and make a case why your position may just be slightly flawed. I'm sure you're not an idiot; you are just prone to leaving your critical capabilities switched off when certain airy-fairy subjects crop up.
- Nobody said Parliament is there to support the democratic will of the people. Its origins are far from that idea, and it's only there today because nobody can arrange for a better system.
- Nobody can agree on the meaning of 'democratic'.
- Nobody can define what people voting 'Leave' were precisely voting for. Some might well have thought Hard Brexit but an awful lot of the noise indicates a significant number were thinking in terms of cake-and-eat-it ie having all the toted benefits whilst keeping all the useful/advantageous aspects of still being a part of Europe. Did people vote for no Norway? did people vote for no Canada++?
To say Parliament acts in a democratic way is true by virtue of tautology. Democracy is Parliament. Whatever it does automatically complies.
So your statement (like Brexit) is vague, meaningless, and unsubstantiated.
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Originally posted by original PM View PostWell so long as 'parliament' understand they only exist to support the democratic will of the people all will be fine.
Or do you think a few people in parliament should be able to overturn the democratic will of the people?
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Originally posted by original PM View PostWell so long as 'parliament' understand they only exist to support the democratic will of the people all will be fine.
As a result you should really think twice before making remarks like the one quoted. You should first ask yourself 'Where did I get that idea from - is it written down somewhere, did somebody reliable relate to this to me?, etc. Secondly you should take some time to ponder whether this could possibly be true. Adopt the contrarian position and make a case why your position may just be slightly flawed. I'm sure you're not an idiot; you are just prone to leaving your critical capabilities switched off when certain airy-fairy subjects crop up.
- Nobody said Parliament is there to support the democratic will of the people. Its origins are far from that idea, and it's only there today because nobody can arrange for a better system.
- Nobody can agree on the meaning of 'democratic'.
- Nobody can define what people voting 'Leave' were precisely voting for. Some might well have thought Hard Brexit but an awful lot of the noise indicates a significant number were thinking in terms of cake-and-eat-it ie having all the toted benefits whilst keeping all the useful/advantageous aspects of still being a part of Europe. Did people vote for no Norway? did people vote for no Canada++?
To say Parliament acts in a democratic way is true by virtue of tautology. Democracy is Parliament. Whatever it does automatically complies.
So your statement (like Brexit) is vague, meaningless, and unsubstantiated.
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Originally posted by original PM View PostWell so long as 'parliament' understand they only exist to support the democratic will of the people all will be fine.
Or do you think a few people in parliament should be able to overturn the democratic will of the people?
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Originally posted by original PM View PostWell so long as 'parliament' understand they only exist to support the democratic will of the people all will be fine.
Or do you think a few people in parliament should be able to overturn the democratic will of the people?
That much was made very clear by their pay rise in 1997.
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Originally posted by BlasterBates View PostSoft or hard
Parliament assumes control of Brexit
It's either May's "hard" Brino or parliament's "soft" version.
I think some "hard" Brexiters are about to vote themselves out of their constituencies by becoming enemies of the people,
Or do you think a few people in parliament should be able to overturn the democratic will of the people?
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So May loses control to parliament. Which is a start.
Now we need parliament to lose control to the people....
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How would you like your Brino served ?
Soft or hard
Parliament assumes control of Brexit
It's either May's "hard" Brino or parliament's "soft" version.
I think some "hard" Brexiters are about to vote themselves out of their constituencies by becoming enemies of the people,
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