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Previously on "The neverending backstop..."

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  • Old Greg
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    Originally posted by sasguru View Post
    You're a Brexiter and hence too stupid to work out that if May's BRINO is rejected, a 2nd ref becomes almost a certainty.
    As William Hague says, parliament will reject a no-deal Brexit.

    You lost get over it, its BRINO or nothing

    Don't worry if all this is taxing your brain cell, you'll work it out eventually, probably when its too late, as usual
    It's very hard to predict. The disaster capitalist ERG is prepared to destroy the economy to achieve their goal. So it comes down to a game of chicken between the government, the people's vote faction and the EFTA faction (is there even such a thing in parliament?). There is a chance that May's deal may prevail once the reasonable MPs are looking at the cliff edge.

    The scenario is:

    1 Vote on government deal fails
    2 No confidence motion fails
    3 Vote on opposition amendment for EFTA or people's vote fails
    4 Vote on ERG amendment fails
    5 Vote on government amendment wins, with enough support from those who hold their nose to stop the cliff edge

    Immense fun to watch.

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  • sasguru
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    Originally posted by shaunbhoy View Post

    Oh Dear. Another nail in the coffin of the May Surrender document.

    You're a Brexiter and hence too stupid to work out that if May's BRINO is rejected, a 2nd ref becomes almost a certainty.
    As William Hague says, parliament will reject a no-deal Brexit.

    You lost get over it, its BRINO or nothing

    Don't worry if all this is taxing your brain cell, you'll work it out eventually, probably when its too late, as usual

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  • meridian
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    Originally posted by WTFH View Post
    So, the attorney general says the backstop is a political, not legal document. Then the Brexit snowflakes whip it up by saying the only way the backstop (if ever implemented) can be repealed is by going to some foreign court... and it’s being lapped up, of course.

    It’s a political negotiation, not a legal one. Political negotiations do not require going to court.

    ...but that’s irrelevant to the Wailers, eh?


    Sent from my iPad using Contractor UK Forum
    Quite.

    It would also help if commentators knew the difference between “permanent” and “indefinite”.

    The backstop is indefinite, it can be removed once the long-promised solution that all the Brexiters have is implemented.

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  • WTFH
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    So, the attorney general says the backstop is a political, not legal document. Then the Brexit snowflakes whip it up by saying the only way the backstop (if ever implemented) can be repealed is by going to some foreign court... and it’s being lapped up, of course.

    It’s a political negotiation, not a legal one. Political negotiations do not require going to court.

    ...but that’s irrelevant to the Wailers, eh?


    Sent from my iPad using Contractor UK Forum

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  • AtW
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    Originally posted by meridian View Post
    Doubtful.

    But with the U.K. looking to do trade deals around the world, it probably wouldn’t be a good look for the country to be reneging on international treaties.
    A couple of gunboats will fix it

    HTH

    SupremeSpod

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  • meridian
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    Originally posted by NotAllThere View Post
    But if the uk decided to go ahead, then what? Will Europe invade?
    Doubtful.

    But with the U.K. looking to do trade deals around the world, it probably wouldn’t be a good look for the country to be reneging on international treaties.

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  • shaunbhoy
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    Theresa May's chief Brexit adviser warned her that customs backstop is 'bad outcome' for Britain


    Oh Dear. Another nail in the coffin of the May Surrender document.

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  • AtW
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    Originally posted by NotAllThere View Post
    But if the uk decided to go ahead, then what? Will Europe invade?
    EUSSR will take UK to evil ECJ!!!

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  • NotAllThere
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    Originally posted by AtW View Post
    ...there was no unilateral right for the UK to pull out of the backstop, which would come into force to prevent a hard Irish border if no permanent trade deal was reached...]
    But if the uk decided to go ahead, then what? Will Europe invade?

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  • Old Greg
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    Originally posted by AtW View Post
    Irish Brexit backstop goes on indefinitely, says attorney general

    The UK is “indefinitely committed” to the Irish backstop if it comes into force, the attorney general, Geoffrey Cox, has told MPs as he explained to them the legal advice he gave the government on the planned Brexit deal.

    Answering questions from MPs in what Downing Street said was the first such appearance by an attorney general in the Commons in decades, Cox also said there was no unilateral right for the UK to pull out of the backstop, which would come into force to prevent a hard Irish border if no permanent trade deal was reached.

    Irish Brexit backstop goes on indefinitely, says attorney general | Politics | The Guardian
    The UK will be bound by treaty, but parliament will retain the right under the British parliamentary system to unilaterally withdraw in breach of the treaty.

    The EUSSR would quickly come to heel when they realise that their export markets for human insulin and drinking water purification chemicals are under threat.

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  • AtW
    started a topic The neverending backstop...

    The neverending backstop...

    Irish Brexit backstop goes on indefinitely, says attorney general

    The UK is “indefinitely committed” to the Irish backstop if it comes into force, the attorney general, Geoffrey Cox, has told MPs as he explained to them the legal advice he gave the government on the planned Brexit deal.

    Answering questions from MPs in what Downing Street said was the first such appearance by an attorney general in the Commons in decades, Cox also said there was no unilateral right for the UK to pull out of the backstop, which would come into force to prevent a hard Irish border if no permanent trade deal was reached.

    Irish Brexit backstop goes on indefinitely, says attorney general | Politics | The Guardian

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