Reply to: Highly Skilled Immigrants

[Bean]

I wouldn't bother with Bean. He's given enough evidence of being an "Idiot Savant" - without the savant bit. Obviously on the spectrum, as well.
You're a nutter for staying in the UK. And in Brum of all places


Having no qualifications is apparently the best indicator of voting Brexit.
Bean is the sort of obviously poorly educated dumbkopf who still thinks Brexit will have no bad effects whatsoever.

Nothing but ad-hominem, thanks, but your assertions are still unsubstantiated.


PS. I've never said the following;
"Brexit will have no bad effects whatsoever."

[Bean]

So you're saying unless the information is spoon fed to you, you can't make your own conclusions based on the data and evidence supplied. Seems you're well matched with your fellow Brexit voters. Maybe if Sas and Darm had painted this on the side of a bus you'd understand it better.

No, I'm saying the information doesn't support the wild assertions made.

HTH

[Bean]

In our own experience academia already hit big time - we struggled to find candidate for a research project part funded by Govt, took 9 months almost max allowed period of time.

My experience is based on a company that I founded 14 years ago and that went from 0 to around 25 full time high tech jobs based here.
What is your experience based on - articles in The Daily Express?

So just to summarise, you have 25 employees out of 32.26 million people employed (0.000077%).
You almost failed to hire 1 (0.0000031%), yes ONE person within 9 months and claim therefore, that "academia already hit big time"

As to the article, all it suggests is that hiring has not had MoM growth, not that there is no hiring whatsoever.
In addition, there is nothing to suggest, that highly-paid workers are going to leave to the extent public services and tax-take are crippled - as per the original assertion by spasguru.

So, back to not holding my breath.

[sasguru]

My experience is based on a company that I founded 14 years ago and that went from 0 to around 25 full time high tech jobs based here.

What is your experience based on - articles in The Daily Express?

I wouldn't bother with Bean. He's given enough evidence of being an "Idiot Savant" - without the savant bit. Obviously on the spectrum, as well.

You're a nutter for staying in the UK. And in Brum of all places

[AtW]

My experience is based on a company that I founded 14 years ago and that went from 0 to around 25 full time high tech jobs based here.

What is your experience based on - articles in The Daily Express?

[sasguru]

So you're saying unless the information is spoon fed to you, you can't make your own conclusions based on the data and evidence supplied. Seems you're well matched with your fellow Brexit voters. Maybe if Sas and Darm had painted this on the side of a bus you'd understand it better.

Having no qualifications is apparently the best indicator of voting Brexit.
Bean is the sort of obviously poorly educated dumbkopf who still thinks Brexit will have no bad effects whatsoever.

Brexiter "thinking" has gone from

We hold all the cards (Wrong!) -> the EU are being horrible (defending their interests after we said were leaving, more like) -> Never mind we can deal with the rest of the world (Not so easily and would help if we had something to trade) -> it may turn out alright in the end (it won't).



It's great entertainment from t'other side of the channel.

[Whorty]

Good grief all that blurb and not one mention of highly-paid people, tax-take, etc.....


Also, something to think on;
LinkedIn only has profiles for 74% of the employed workforce (and that assumes genuine, 1 per person and not spam/scammers).
So it doesn't have a complete picture.

LinkedIn also obtained 'insight' from a collection of pimps.
Pimps aren't always used for hiring people.

So, still waiting for the evidence behind the assertions (which I assume you now agree with, since you've picked up the baton from spas?)

So you're saying unless the information is spoon fed to you, you can't make your own conclusions based on the data and evidence supplied. Seems you're well matched with your fellow Brexit voters. Maybe if Sas and Darm had painted this on the side of a bus you'd understand it better.

[Bean]

Brexit morons on here think that reduction in pool of foreign workers will push their rates up. Wrong - it will result in reduction of investment and thus demand for such work in the first place.

It could, but nothing is certain. Many factors will affect this, but for you to unilaterally declare it completely wrong just shows your own naivety, as opposed to Brexiteers

In our own experience academia already hit big time - we struggled to find candidate for a research project part funded by Govt, took 9 months almost max allowed period of time.

How many organisation does 'your' experience cover? One? and what was it - just 1 position?

Wow, the sheer scale of your recruitment drive is overwhelming, we all better have a sit down and a cuppa - it's a shame it isn't just an example of how you are scaling up your personal experience of 1 role for 1 org, and calling it 'academia'

[AtW]

Brexit morons on here think that reduction in pool of foreign workers will push their rates up. Wrong - it will result in reduction of investment and thus demand for such work in the first place.

In our own experience academia already hit big time - we struggled to find candidate for a research project part funded by Govt, took 9 months almost max allowed period of time.

[Bean]

Corporate Services sector registered a decline in its S.A. MoM Hiring Rate in March of 7%.

The S.A. MoM Hiring Rate in the Software and IT Services sector fell by 5% in March

Hiring in Hardware and Networking saw a fall in the S.A. MoM Hiring Rate of 3%

The S.A. MoM rate for Manufacturing dipped by 3% in March continuing the decline registered in the previous month

Construction saw a fall in the S.A. MoM Hiring Rate in March (down 2%) continuing the 1% decline in February

The Media and Comms sector saw a 2% fall in the S.A. MoM Hiring Rate in March continuing the weak performance of previous months

Hiring in Education registered a 5% growth in the S.A. MoM Hiring Rate in March, which reversed a 6% fall in February and placed it at the top of the table among all the sectors that returned significant data

Public Administration saw the S.A. MoM Hiring Rate rise 4% in March, reversing a 6% fall in February

The Entertainment sector has fallen back, after a pick up in February, with a 7% decline in the S.A. MoM Hiring Rate in March

Healthcare saw a continuing fall in the S.A. MoM Hiring Rate in March of 1%. Notably, recruitment and HR professionals say they are seeing the biggest impact of declining international talent on this sector

Despite its prominent role among the top hiring sectors in several regions of the country, S.A. hiring in Finance remains sluggish overall, rising MoM by just 1% in March, reversing a 3% fall in February

Hiring in the Legal sector maintained its slow recovery in March, with a MoM Hiring Rate edging up by 2% after 5% growth in February and 2% growth in January

The S.A. MoM Hiring Rate in the Transportation and Logistics sector grew by 4% in March

The S.A. MoM Hiring Rate in the Recreation and Travel sector was up 4% in March

Hiring in the Real Estate sector continues to be volatile, with a fall of 1% in the S.A. MoM Hiring Rate in March

Hiring in the Consumer Goods sector was up 4% MoM in March

Hiring in the Retail sector continues to stand still, with no change in the S.A. MoM Hiring Rate in March

The S.A. MoM Hiring Rate in the Nonprofit sector grew 3% in March

The Design sector achieved modest 1% growth in the S.A. MoM Hiring Rate in March

Although some areas look reasonably good, they're not exactly the ones which are going to help grow the economy

Good grief all that blurb and not one mention of highly-paid people, tax-take, etc.....


Also, something to think on;
LinkedIn only has profiles for 74% of the employed workforce (and that assumes genuine, 1 per person and not spam/scammers).
So it doesn't have a complete picture.

LinkedIn also obtained 'insight' from a collection of pimps.
Pimps aren't always used for hiring people.

So, still waiting for the evidence behind the assertions (which I assume you now agree with, since you've picked up the baton from spas?)

[darmstadt]

Corporate Services sector registered a decline in its S.A. MoM Hiring Rate in March of 7%.

The S.A. MoM Hiring Rate in the Software and IT Services sector fell by 5% in March

Hiring in Hardware and Networking saw a fall in the S.A. MoM Hiring Rate of 3%

The S.A. MoM rate for Manufacturing dipped by 3% in March continuing the decline registered in the previous month

Construction saw a fall in the S.A. MoM Hiring Rate in March (down 2%) continuing the 1% decline in February

The Media and Comms sector saw a 2% fall in the S.A. MoM Hiring Rate in March continuing the weak performance of previous months

Hiring in Education registered a 5% growth in the S.A. MoM Hiring Rate in March, which reversed a 6% fall in February and placed it at the top of the table among all the sectors that returned significant data

Public Administration saw the S.A. MoM Hiring Rate rise 4% in March, reversing a 6% fall in February

The Entertainment sector has fallen back, after a pick up in February, with a 7% decline in the S.A. MoM Hiring Rate in March

Healthcare saw a continuing fall in the S.A. MoM Hiring Rate in March of 1%. Notably, recruitment and HR professionals say they are seeing the biggest impact of declining international talent on this sector

Despite its prominent role among the top hiring sectors in several regions of the country, S.A. hiring in Finance remains sluggish overall, rising MoM by just 1% in March, reversing a 3% fall in February

Hiring in the Legal sector maintained its slow recovery in March, with a MoM Hiring Rate edging up by 2% after 5% growth in February and 2% growth in January

The S.A. MoM Hiring Rate in the Transportation and Logistics sector grew by 4% in March

The S.A. MoM Hiring Rate in the Recreation and Travel sector was up 4% in March

Hiring in the Real Estate sector continues to be volatile, with a fall of 1% in the S.A. MoM Hiring Rate in March

Hiring in the Consumer Goods sector was up 4% MoM in March

Hiring in the Retail sector continues to stand still, with no change in the S.A. MoM Hiring Rate in March

The S.A. MoM Hiring Rate in the Nonprofit sector grew 3% in March

The Design sector achieved modest 1% growth in the S.A. MoM Hiring Rate in March

Although some areas look reasonably good, they're not exactly the ones which are going to help grow the economy

[Bean]

Unless they're talking about professional chicken stuffers and strawberry pickers



But you probably didn't read it

"Finance continues to be the strongest hiring sector in London, followed by Software & IT Services, and Corporate Services."

&

"Hiring activity in the South East was strongest in Software & IT, Corporate Services and Finance."

Did you read it?



So again, Link(s) please to support assertions (I know they were spasguru's, not yours) - otherwise it's just one brainfart of many....

[darmstadt]

Where's the links to support your unsubstantiated assertions?

The article doesn't mention highly-paid, or tax-take.

It does say, however, "The UK is still importing talent, but at a lower rate."

Thus, undermining at least 1 of your assertions.

HTH BIDI

looking at hiring and professional migration trends in the UK

Unless they're talking about professional chicken stuffers and strawberry pickers

seven sectors (corporate services, finance/banking, software & IT services, manufacturing, media & communications, public sector, retail)

But you probably didn't read it

[Bean]

You're an embodiment of the 3rd rate-ness of the UK.

I'm pretty sure people will start giving a fook when the tax take from the leaving highly paid falls and (further) cuts have to be made.

Where's the links to support your unsubstantiated assertions?

The article doesn't mention highly-paid, or tax-take.

It does say, however, "The UK is still importing talent, but at a lower rate."

Thus, undermining at least 1 of your assertions.

HTH BIDI

[sasguru]

OOOh look at all the fooks no one gives.

You're an embodiment of the 3rd rate-ness of the UK.

I'm pretty sure people will start giving a fook when the tax take from the leaving highly paid falls and (further) cuts have to be made.