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  • meridian
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    Still no agreement, and still arguing like children.

    https://politicalscrapbook.net/2018/...-arguing/amp/?

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  • meridian
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    Originally posted by Mordac View Post
    Really? Or are they just doing and saying what Tusk and Juncker are telling them what to do and say? There must be a few heads of Government who are more than slightly worried about the effects of EU tariffs on their exports to the UK, but I'm guessing they've been told to shut up and play along with the EU script.
    Yes to both, but for different reasons.

    To the U.K., it’s a negotiation. To the EU, it’s a legal process. There’s very little deviation from the official EU script because they all understand that leaving the EU is a legal process and therefore it follows the legal script. You could call this “doing what they’re told”, in the same sense that when a lawyer tells you what the process for something is, you follow that process.

    Yes, there will be a few heads of government worried about tariffs, but from the perspective of their countries that’s not the worst case scenario. The U.K. crashing out with no deal is the UK’s worst case scenario; the break-up of the single market is the EU’s worst case - the U.K. leaving is uncomfortable but an acceptable price if it means that they continue to retain preferential access to 26 other countries.

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  • Mordac
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    Originally posted by meridian View Post
    27 nations of the EU. Different languages, their own parliaments and objectives, yet still manage to present a coherent and agreed strategy for the U.K. exiting.

    12 U.K. cabinet ministers, nearly two years after the referendum and one year after triggering A50, still can’t agree on what Brexit should look like.

    But, but, but, “we all know what we voted for”, right? That might be either a lie, or undeliverable.


    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/553378...greement/amp/?
    Really? Or are they just doing and saying what Tusk and Juncker are telling them what to do and say? There must be a few heads of Government who are more than slightly worried about the effects of EU tariffs on their exports to the UK, but I'm guessing they've been told to shut up and play along with the EU script.

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  • NotAllThere
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    Originally posted by meridian View Post
    27 nations of the EU. Different languages, their own parliaments and objectives, yet still manage to present a coherent and agreed strategy
    It's 'cos they all speak English.

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  • BlasterBates
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    The global economy booms and UK production drops 1% in December.

    https://tradingeconomics.com/united-...production-mom

    Fortunately Brexit is going well, so things will start to boom.

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  • NotAllThere
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    Originally posted by Eirikur View Post
    Or iceland or Liechtenstein

    The vote was to leave the EU and trigger article 50
    To leave the EEA you have to trigger 127, which hasn't been triggered
    EU officials and the British government argue that it isn't necessary - but that's largely politically driven. Will it ever be tested in a court?

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  • Eirikur
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    Originally posted by PurpleGorilla View Post
    It has to be EEA; a la Norway.
    Or iceland or Liechtenstein

    The vote was to leave the EU and trigger article 50
    To leave the EEA you have to trigger 127, which hasn't been triggered

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  • original PM
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    Originally posted by meridian View Post
    27 nations of the EU. Different languages, their own parliaments and objectives, yet still manage to present a coherent and agreed strategy for the U.K. exiting.

    12 U.K. cabinet ministers, nearly two years after the referendum and one year after triggering A50, still can’t agree on what Brexit should look like.

    But, but, but, “we all know what we voted for”, right? That might be either a lie, or undeliverable.


    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/553378...greement/amp/?
    It is probably true - which means what Brexit has actually done is expose the UK's government for being full of self serving loathsome tw@s.

    Maybe we should have another vote - to stay in the EU and dump the UK parliament - I wonder if the self serving tw@'s would suddenly sit up and do the job they are paid to then?

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  • PurpleGorilla
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    It has to be EEA; a la Norway.

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  • meridian
    started a topic Unicorns and cake

    Unicorns and cake

    27 nations of the EU. Different languages, their own parliaments and objectives, yet still manage to present a coherent and agreed strategy for the U.K. exiting.

    12 U.K. cabinet ministers, nearly two years after the referendum and one year after triggering A50, still can’t agree on what Brexit should look like.

    But, but, but, “we all know what we voted for”, right? That might be either a lie, or undeliverable.


    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/553378...greement/amp/?

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