Reply to: Finally, we're discussing trade!

[jamesbrown]

classic!

Indeed. If there's one thing on which we can probably all agree, it's that HMG - in whose participation Liam Fox deserves special mention - is thicker than the bastwerd child of sas and scootie.

[BlasterBates]

Liam's cunning plan is to sign infinity trade deals "the second we leave".

Liam Fox promises to sign 40 free trade deals the 'second after' Brexit - Business Insider

Still, whether or not Liam is an idiot seems to be independent of whether or not you are, er, less than optimally informed.

Liam Fox's trade negotiations are a complete f** up

The senior Conservative had promised in October that he would have up to 40 of the trade deals ready for use “one second after midnight” on March 20, 2019 but now appears to be struggling.

classic!

[jamesbrown]

Does what I think change the fact that the UK has to now be "blackmailed" by 50 countries to get their deals done.

What is Liam's cunning plan then, please do show us.

Liam's cunning plan is to sign infinity trade deals "the second we leave".

Liam Fox promises to sign 40 free trade deals the 'second after' Brexit - Business Insider

Still, whether or not Liam is an idiot seems to be independent of whether or not you are, er, less than optimally informed.

[jamesbrown]

In that financial services will be thrown into the mix, that won't come for nothing, guess what pound of flesh the UK will have to pay.

Gosh, that told me. Financial services in an FTA implies a Swiss-style arrangement. You've missed your calling.

[BlasterBates]

Er, you've misunderstood.

Is it your contention that everyone, up to this point, believed that all of the existing third-country trade deals struck by the EU would somehow apply, automatically, to the UK during the transition, once we're no longer an EU member state?

You haven't been paying attention.

Does what I think change the fact that the UK has to now be "blackmailed" by 50 countries to get their deals done.

What is Liam's cunning plan then, please do show us.

[jamesbrown]

Not during the transition

1 year to sign over 50 trade deals

Er, you've misunderstood.

Is it your contention that everyone, up to this point, believed that all of the existing third-country trade deals struck by the EU would somehow apply, automatically, to the UK during the transition, once we're no longer an EU member state?

You haven't been paying attention.

[BlasterBates]

Fascinating interpretation. What aspects of that article, in particular, hinted at the Swiss-style nature of the deal?

How does one negotiate an FTA that isn't "bespoke"?

What would that "generic" FTA look like?

Quivering with tremulous anticipation

In that financial services will be thrown into the mix, that won't come for nothing, guess what pound of flesh the UK will have to pay.

[jamesbrown]

Barnier backtracks and hints at Swiss style deal

Fascinating interpretation. What aspects of that article, in particular, hinted at the Swiss-style nature of the deal?

How does one negotiate an FTA that isn't "bespoke"?

What would that "generic" FTA look like?

Quivering with tremulous anticipation

[BlasterBates]

"Informed"

Since when, precisely, was that not blindingly obvious?

All of those deals depend on being an actual member state, legally.

What do you think Fox has been trying to do for the last six months (don't answer that )?

Not during the transition

1 year to sign over 50 trade deals

[jamesbrown]

Barnier has just informed the press that the UK won't be party to EU FTAs with other countries during the transition, the UK has to sort themselves out with their own replacement FTA's, eg South Korea, Switzerland and Norway etc

"Informed"

Since when, precisely, was that not blindingly obvious?

All of those deals depend on being an actual member state, legally.

What do you think Fox has been trying to do for the last six months (don't answer that )?

[jamesbrown]

I like that too. At least it is not using the hard right propaganda technique of smearing opponents with the language of treachery and terrorism.

I put you in the same camp as the Fail.

[jamesbrown]

You think it is a coincidence!? You are a fool or a liar.

In that case, I'm in good company

[BlasterBates]

Letter to Nissan still too sensitive to publish

basically the UK will have to more or less government fund the remaining bits of its manufacturing industry to stop inconvenient headlines such as the closure of Nissan's Tyneside factory

[original PM]

I like to see them playing off against each other.

I know what you mean but I got bored and in reality it was a waste of time and money.

[northernladyuk]

Hey no where did I say the Uk government was any better.

But at least with Brexit we only have 1 set of lying ******* to deal with and not two.

I like to see them playing off against each other.