Reply to: Okay - I was wrong on Brexit

[shaunbhoy]

Are you saying he was um... with your mum?

I think he is suggesting that sas is, and in fact always has been, a mummy's boy.
Which would explain a lot.

HTH

[BrilloPad]

What do you mean, because he's a right wing idiot who can't wait for the UK to leave the EU so he can dismantle the NHS before May gets a chance to?

Irrational fear of minority groups(like cyclists).

HTH

[WTFH]

Alot more would be explained if you were related to Donald Trump.

What do you mean, because he's a right wing idiot who can't wait for the UK to leave the EU so he can dismantle the NHS before May gets a chance to?

[BrilloPad]

But it would explain a lot

Alot more would be explained if you were related to Donald Trump.

[WTFH]

If I found out I was related to that I would top myself.

But it would explain a lot

[BrilloPad]

Are you saying he was um... with your mum?

If I found out I was related to that I would top myself.

[WTFH]

Not true! Quite a bit was Mummie's apron strings.

Are you saying he was um... with your mum?

[BrilloPad]

Says the man that has spent the bulk of his life tied to wifie's coattails!

Not true! Quite a bit was Mummie's apron strings.

[shaunbhoy]

You do sound like someone who's spent the bulk of your life in the public sector.

Says the man that has spent the bulk of his life tied to wifie's coattails!

[sasguru]

So it's a specious and unsustainable argument if taken to its logical extreme, and in any case letting in too many immigrants deprives indigenous people of opportunities, and that must be our first and last consideration.

So you've made the calculation that Brexit will provide more opportunities for the indigenous population?
You do sound like someone who's spent the bulk of your life in the public sector.

[BrilloPad]

Let's have an 'oh dear' because it is rather sad: Brexit blamed for 260 job losses as UK food supplier Southern Salads collapses into administration | The Independent

The devalued currency has made imports more expensive, cutting into the margins of many British businesses and making some unsustainable.

So now we will have to buy British.

I think this calls for a

[darmstadt]

Let's have an 'oh dear' because it is rather sad: Brexit blamed for 260 job losses as UK food supplier Southern Salads collapses into administration | The Independent

[OwlHoot]

Honestly, you're pulling up someone for lack of brains?

Plemnty of immigrants contribute more than you, I'll wager

These people for example, who "arrived on these shores with only the clothes they stood up in":
https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2012/1...n-for-success/

There are probably literally a thousand million people world-wide who individually could "contribute more than average" in the UK given a chance. But there's no way they could all be allowed into the UK.

So it's a specious and unsustainable argument if taken to its logical extreme, and in any case letting in too many immigrants deprives indigenous people of opportunities, and that must be our first and last consideration.

[WTFH]

twaddle.
They spend a LOT of time in placement doing actual nursing. They qualify as nurses to be nurses and can do that. Health is one of the few university educations that allows you to go straight into your profession once you've graduated.

They don't change bedpans though. It was decided some years ago that menial work should be done by lower paid people and nurses should get more money. That may or may not have been the right decision, as the menial work needs doing, it's just done by thick twunts with no better education.

Not twaddle at all.
It used to be you had SRNs and Ward Sisters. Neither of those people spent 3 years in a university. "Project 2000" saw the end of hospital teaching and moved everything to universities. That was from the late 80s...
http://www.nhshistory.net/chapter_5.htm#Project_2000

Now to be a nurse you need a bachelor's degree.
https://www.plymouth.ac.uk/courses/u...-nursing-adult

Thankfully some of the mistakes from Project 2000 are being rectified as the government have realised that the NMC maybe know what they are talking about.

The UK needs about 10,000 new nurses each year. We have university places for around 12,000, but most years 1/3 drop out before completion.
So we have 8,000 new nurses each year coming out of UK universities (that is not to say they are British citizens or even enough generations old British citizens to be acceptable to some on here)
Of those 8,000 many do not go on to pursue a career in the NHS, move away from nursing altogether, or return to their home countries.

7% of nurses in England are from the EU
5.6% are from Asia (mostly India and the Philippines)
2.4% are from Africa
0.7% are from elsewhere
(based on the briefing made in the House of Commons in April 2017)

[sasguru]

It does not really take a genius to recognise that someone arriving on these shores with only the clothes they stand up in will take a while to become a net contributor to the economy.

Obviously hard facts and figures are useful but a very basic thought experiment would get you to the right conclusion.

Ahh I see the problem now.

Its probably in the words basic and thought.

Honestly, you're pulling up someone for lack of brains?

Plemnty of immigrants contribute more than you, I'll wager

These people for example, who "arrived on these shores with only the clothes they stood up in":
https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2012/1...n-for-success/