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You seem to assume you're the only one among the ten billion people on Earth with the almost superhuman prescience to spot that there may be opportunities in a hard Brexit.Originally posted by sasguru View PostI've prepared for the worst and am ready for it. Bring on hard Brexit - in chaos lies opportunity.
In fact you'll probably be swept aside and trampled underfoot by the stampede of others (in the UK and outside) taking advantage of the many opportunities faster and better than you ever could!
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I've prepared for the worst and am ready for it. Bring on hard Brexit - in chaos lies opportunity.
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Article 50 author calls for Brexit to be halted with a warning of ‘disastrous consequences’ | The Independent
The peer, who was Britain’s permanent representative at the EU for five years from 1990, said when he wrote Article 50 – the clause in the EU’s Lisbon Treaty that outlines the steps a country must take to leave the bloc voluntarily – he believed it would only ever be triggered by a dictatorial regime.
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Hard Brexit=economic catastrophe.Originally posted by BlasterBates View PostIt is self-evident that the talks will get bogged down without any movement and there they will stay until the government collapses. The only thing that will shift the UK government into gear will be the inevitably of an economic catastrophe.

Anything else=some pain.
The Treasury produced an interesting and overlooked study in 2016 showing how much the preservation of EU wide supply chains matters to the UK economy. Remember reading it then but it seems to have been removed from their website.Last edited by sasguru; 18 July 2017, 15:16.
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He's had a sloppy approach right from the start.Originally posted by jamesbrown View PostBar a shocking conference speech in 2005, he would've been Tory leader. Either way, he's an experienced politician. Mediocrity, fine, whatever, but he's been around the block. If your three counterparts are walking into a staging room with a few trees worth of "briefing documents", you should know something's amiss. If you leave the negotiating room after an hour, you should know what to expect in the Grauniad and the Windy. Perhaps he knows all this, but simply doesn't give a crap. He should.
Barnier is no genius but compared to Davies he looks like Einstein.
But let's look at the bright side, his incompetence is more likely to lead to the hard Brexit we both want.
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It is self-evident that the talks will get bogged down without any movement and there they will stay until the government collapses. The only thing that will shift the UK government into gear will be the inevitably of an economic catastrophe.
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Hopefully people aren't getting confused here...
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Bar a shocking conference speech in 2005, he would've been Tory leader. Either way, he's an experienced politician. Mediocrity, fine, whatever, but he's been around the block. If your three counterparts are walking into a staging room with a few trees worth of "briefing documents", you should know something's amiss. If you leave the negotiating room after an hour, you should know what to expect in the Grauniad and the Windy. Perhaps he knows all this, but simply doesn't give a crap. He should.Originally posted by sasguru View PostWhy do you think he "should know better"? He's always been a mediocrity, now put centre stage because of Brexit.
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I totally agree and he is actually one of the better candidatesOriginally posted by sasguru View PostWhy do you think he "should know better"? He's always been a mediocrity, now put centre stage because of Brexit.
What's scary is this talk of him becoming Tory leader.
You'd think nothing could be worse than May, but you'd be wrong

This is precisely why Corbyn looks like a great statesman.
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This Tory deal is getting worse all the time...Originally posted by sasguru View PostWhy do you think he "should know better"? He's always been a mediocrity, now put centre stage because of Brexit.
What's scary is this talk of him becoming Tory leader.
You'd think nothing could be worse than May, but you'd be wrong
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Why do you think he "should know better"? He's always been a mediocrity, now put centre stage because of Brexit.Originally posted by jamesbrown View PostDavis et al. are approaching the media ops like utter n00bs. They were clearly taken into a staging room for the photo op and Davis should've had the presence of mind to question why Barnier and his team might have brought their papers into a staging room. Davis then heads back to London within the hour and further foot shooting ensues. He's a seasoned politician, and he really should know better.
What's scary is this talk of him becoming Tory leader.
You'd think nothing could be worse than May, but you'd be wrong
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