civil servants in Whitehall are briefing against Brexit and are briefing politicians that Britain will not leave the EU
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There's no need for Brexit to bring the country and economy down, the workers (or is it just tulip management) seem to be doing that themselves: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/bu...-a7834921.html
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Originally posted by sasguru View Post1. I don't think the result of Brexit will be calamity (although that's a possibility with no deal), simply a slow down in the economy's long term growth potential and the sidelining of the UK as a consequential power. In effect I think we'll be forced into the position of the US's de facto fifty-first state.
2. Yes overseas investors run most of our utilities, factories, and other assets. Let's have more in, especially from the US (see above)
I suggest UK joins with CHina and we can rule the world together....
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Originally posted by OwlHoot View PostGloating Remainers seem to assume that any downturn in the UK would simply snowball on downhill to calamity, like medievil peasants starving in their fields with no recourse after a crop failure.
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Lets face it as the untold miseries of Brexit unfold and I did notice the pound dropped yet again today so shoving up inflation and making public sector employees even poorer, Brexit will get harder and harder.
Former Tory MP warns of 'terrible trouble' if MPs oust Theresa May | UK | News | Express.co.uk
Brexiteers have to ask themselves how long will employees put up with getting 2% poorer every year.
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Regardless of the politics of Brexit, I find it worrying that this and previous governments refuse to consider the possibility of negative outcomes.
For example how prepared was the government of the day prepared for the Leave vote?
Completely unprepared. And the result was chaos.
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It will be like the Thatcher years when life was really tough, the economy shrunk but unlike those times where Britain came through growing stronger, it will be a permanent shrinkage. So expect years of misery where nothing recovers but people simply get used to being poorer and accept it. Anyone expecting immigration to decline as a silver lining will be disappointed.Last edited by BlasterBates; 11 July 2017, 20:40.
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Originally posted by OwlHoot View PostGloating Remainers seem to assume that any downturn in the UK would simply snowball on downhill to calamity, like medievil peasants starving in their fields with no recourse after a crop failure.
What they forget, or choose to ignore, is that the World is very linked these days and an economic dip is a buying opportunity, and the UK would be eager to allow suitable overseas investors to take advantage of that.
2. Yes overseas investors run most of our utilities, factories, and other assets. Let's have more in, especially from the US (see above)
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Gloating Remainers seem to assume that any downturn in the UK would simply snowball on downhill to calamity, like medievil peasants starving in their fields with no recourse after a crop failure.
What they forget, or choose to ignore, is that the World is very linked these days and an economic dip is a buying opportunity, and the UK would be eager to allow suitable overseas investors to take advantage of that.
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Looks like the £ is preparing for a hard brexit n all 1.12212 against euro!
Just as well wages are rising.. but I reckon inflation will win the race.
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Originally posted by sasguru View PostI've come to the conclusion this would be the best option all round. ...
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Everyone agreed it would be a messy divorce. In fact, it composed the majority of arguments from the remain side.
I always felt it would be worthwhile.
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HSBC planning for a Hard Brexit
The package of reforms suggested last week is very, very positive," he added, referring to labor market and economic reforms proposed by the French government
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