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Originally posted by WTFH View PostI was quoting you, who said about the 1.7m people on zero hour contracts. I can't help it if you think your own logic is shot, but glad to see you're coming round to begin understanding.
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Originally posted by sasguru View PostCongratulations. You've done the impossible and made Diane Abbott look like a genius in comparison to you.
You and Mordac make the characters in Dumb and Dumber look like Bohr and Einstein.
That's the problem with democracy - if a nation has bred too many idiots, it doesn't work. We're at that tipping point now.
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Originally posted by vetran View Postin an employment contract whether zero hours or other is not equal to unemployed whatever your assertions. I suspect a large number people on here have an IR35 avoiding zero hour contract. Absence of Moo. I know I did with many of my clients and my company. I was most definitely employed.
So whilst you might believe your maths are good your logic is obviously shot.
Now I believe some employers are abusing zero hours contracts but that doesn't make their employees unemployed.
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Originally posted by WTFH View PostLet's look at your figures (before they get edited again)
So, 1.7m UK people are on zero hours contracts (according to your figures)
And 1.54m are claiming unemployment benefits (according to the government's seasonally adjusted figures excluding those who are not seeking work or not available to work)
And there are 8.85m people aged 16-64 who are "economically inactive"
Let's ignore the inactive for now.
1.7+1.54 = 3.24
That's 3.24 million people who are effectively unemployed in the UK, which is almost 1/9th of 4.26 million. Sorry, almost 1/3rd of 4.26 million. Sorry, a lot less than half of 4.26 million. Sorry, terribly high and Spain is really struggling.
So whilst you might believe your maths are good your logic is obviously shot.
Now I believe some employers are abusing zero hours contracts but that doesn't make their employees unemployed.
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Originally posted by WTFH View Post"Rough maths" being out by a factor of 4, then repeated, then claimed it was "rough"
You provided numbers, your numbers were proved wrong. That was not a personal attack, that was responding to false data with facts.
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Let's look at your figures (before they get edited again)
Originally posted by vetran View PostThat would be 1.7m contracts so one third of Spain's unemployed figure. They are of course not claiming benefit so are officially employed. As staff get scarcer I expect the zero hour contracts to fall.
And 1.54m are claiming unemployment benefits (according to the government's seasonally adjusted figures excluding those who are not seeking work or not available to work)
And there are 8.85m people aged 16-64 who are "economically inactive"
Let's ignore the inactive for now.
1.7+1.54 = 3.24
That's 3.24 million people who are effectively unemployed in the UK, which is almost 1/9th of 4.26 million. Sorry, almost 1/3rd of 4.26 million. Sorry, a lot less than half of 4.26 million. Sorry, terribly high and Spain is really struggling.
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Originally posted by vetran View PostAh the usual arguments....
You provided numbers, your numbers were proved wrong. That was not a personal attack, that was responding to false data with facts.
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Originally posted by vetran View PostWithdraws into sulk because he's shown himself up to be a cretin again.
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Originally posted by WTFH View PostDesperate attack at rough maths despite Spain having a huge 18.75% unemployment rate.Originally posted by sasguru View PostPersonal attack because he lostOriginally posted by northernladyuk View PostPersonal attack because (s)he lost
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Originally posted by sasguru View PostCongratulations. You've done the impossible and made Diane Abbott look like a genius in comparison to you.
You and Mordac make the characters in Dumb and Dumber look like Bohr and Einstein.
That's the problem with democracy - if a nation has bred too many idiots, it doesn't work. We're at that tipping point now.
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Originally posted by vetran View Postwell its much more than double as I said they aren't claiming unemployment benefit so they aren't part of the figures.
You and Mordac make the characters in Dumb and Dumber look like Bohr and Einstein.
That's the problem with democracy - if a nation has bred too many idiots, it doesn't work. We're at that tipping point now.
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Originally posted by WTFH View PostI see you have now edited a post to say that 1.7 is 1/3 of 4.26, and you say I'm the one clutching at straws.
1.7 is 1/3 of 5.1 or 1/9 of 15.3
1.7 is 2/5 of 4.26
So, one of you is useless at maths and the other was "being sarcastic" when he said that no money would be sent from the UK to Spain.
Both of you were wrong, or to put it another way, full of tulip. Doesn't matter how you try to spin your argument, ignore facts or edit your posts, your posts are full of tulip.
Next you'll be saying that the £350million a week to the NHS pledge was out by a factor of 4 as well.
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