Reply to: Becoming a contractor again, some q's

[wilko123]

You don't need the company UTR to register for PAYE either you can register for VAT & PAYE without company UTR and bank account.

The Online Government Gateway doesn't make this very clear.

I do have to ask if you have an accountant because they could do all this for you very easily and means you don't have to worry about it.

Couple of key comments from this thread alone that might help the OP...... <Quoting lots of people without actually adding any value/>

I know I can get my accountant to do this but I like to do a few things myself and this is how I ran things previously with him. I just thought in the meantime I'd ask on here and thanks to those who have helped.

[Clare@InTouch]

I'm going off SJD as fast as I'm going off Cater Allen. They sent me paper forms to fill in and I went with what they said. Including that they couldn't send the VAT registration off until they'd put the bank details on it.

They may have sent you paper forms that they then use to complete an online application for you, as it gives them a record of what you've told them. It saves any disagreements later over category etc.

You can apply without a bank account though.

[northernladuk]

Couple of key comments from this thread alone that might help the OP.

Remember a good accountant will more than justify there fee in terms of you being tax efficient and the service they offer.

As a accountant could do all this for you. Register for VAT and PAYE etc even the Business bank account and Insurance too.

You or your accountant can register for all HMRC taxes online and then this will mean you can keep up to date with all deadlines and make sure your account is up to date too.

I do have to ask if you have an accountant because they could do all this for you very easily and means you don't have to worry about it.

[Jeremiah@RHJAccountants]

The reason I ask is because I started the registration process for the Online Government Gateway to register for taxes (VAT, PAYE) and was asked the UTR because I ticked PAYE.

I've now realised I can register for VAT without the company UTR and when that comes through I can then register for PAYE.

Many thanks for those who replied with helpful messages.

You don't need the company UTR to register for PAYE either you can register for VAT & PAYE without company UTR and bank account.

I do have to ask if you have an accountant because they could do all this for you very easily and means you don't have to worry about it.

[wilko123]

The reason I ask is because I started the registration process for the Online Government Gateway to register for taxes (VAT, PAYE) and was asked the UTR because I ticked PAYE.

I've now realised I can register for VAT without the company UTR and when that comes through I can then register for PAYE.

Many thanks for those who replied with helpful messages.

[Jeremiah@RHJAccountants]

I'm going off SJD as fast as I'm going off Cater Allen. They sent me paper forms to fill in and I went with what they said. Including that they couldn't send the VAT registration off until they'd put the bank details on it.

That is for you to pick up with SJD. All i know is that the bank account having to be opened is not a mandatory requirement.

You or your accountant can register for all HMRC taxes online and then this will mean you can keep up to date with all deadlines and make sure your account is up to date too.

Cater Allen normally open accounts in five working days unless there is an issue that has to be referred on.

[dty]

I'm going off SJD as fast as I'm going off Cater Allen. They sent me paper forms to fill in and I went with what they said. Including that they couldn't send the VAT registration off until they'd put the bank details on it.

[Jeremiah@RHJAccountants]

You need a bank account first. At least, there's a space in the form for bank account details which SJD insisted was filled in.

Cater Allen took ages opening my account which almost delayed my VAT registration beyond my first invoice!

This is false you do not need a bank account to proceed with VAT registration.

I have many clients that i open companies for and the bank account is not a mandatory requirement, If you have it open then yes put this on the form but it is not compulsory as it can be added at a later date.

Also why use the VAT 1 Form when this process can be done much quicker online through HMRC!

[dty]

No, you can register for VAT straight away.

You need a bank account first. At least, there's a space in the form for bank account details which SJD insisted was filled in.

Cater Allen took ages opening my account which almost delayed my VAT registration beyond my first invoice!

[northernladuk]

Do I need to wait for my company UTR before I can register for VAT?

If you spent a good 5 seconds scanning the VAT registration form you will see there is no box asking for UTR. That kinda tells you something doesn't it hey.

Sadly for you there are far too many boxes on the form for us to tell you exactly what to write in each on so its going to be a real struggle. Sorry.

[Craig at Nixon Williams]

Do I need to wait for my company UTR before I can register for VAT?

No, you can register for VAT straight away.

[Jeremiah@RHJAccountants]

Do I need to wait for my company UTR before I can register for VAT?

No VAT registration is completely separate form Corporation tax.

Did you register through a formation agent or an accountant?

As a accountant could do all this for you. Register for VAT and PAYE etc even the Business bank account and Insurance too.

[wilko123]

Do I need to wait for my company UTR before I can register for VAT?

[northernladuk]

I do know it wasn't because I spent more time posting condescending messages on forums rather than doing any actual work for my clients

True enough but if we were all doing that there would be no one on the forum to set up your contract stuff for you.

[wilko123]

Your business didn't take off because you couldn't find a forum full of strangers to do all the basic work for you I take it?

I do know it wasn't because I spent more time posting condescending messages on forums rather than doing any actual work for my clients