Reply to: What to do if baliffs come knocking

[BrilloPad]

Without wanting to restart old arguments and purely IMVHO, doing anything that ended up caught by BN66 falls under the "Taking the piss" category.

That is your opinion and I would die for your right to say it. Though you are wrong!

What about those caught in IR35 investigations or S660?

Even before I was with montpelier I got investigated a few times : I was squeaky clean as was eventually proven. But was alot of hassle proving it due to the presumption of guilt. Lucky for me I have a v v good accountant.

[Bob Jones]

Pay your CT, Employers NI and VAT on time.
Submit your annual accounts and company return on time.

Wise advice but there are other tips - and none of them illegal. For example - before I submit a set of accounts to HMRC I look at them from the HMRC perspective, I try to think of any questions they are likely to ask and answer them in the form of an explanation on the return or in a covering letter. In the case of a person who is self employed it is wise to send in the full accounts under separate cover as the tax return is merely a summary of the figures. For example - take a property letting business - last year the repairs were £100 and this year they are £15000 - odds on HMRC will enquire - so submit the return over internet but,as a separate issue, send a letter with an explanation of the expense and copy receipts with copy bank/credit card statements to back it up - in one case I have a full digital photographic record of repairs - before, during and after ... that way honest people can avoid an enquiry which could prove costly in agents fees and a waste of government resources -- bottom line be honest and on time in all your dealings .... if, say, following Dragonfly, you are concerned about your IR35 proof contract then I am not the person to consult - I try to avoid such clients - if in doubt take out insurance - there is a thread involving QDOS running elsewhere ..

Bob

[DaveB]

Alot of people have done all that and still got grief. In particular there are now 2 people from the bn66 thread who have had the baliffs sent round.

HMRC presume guilt!

Without wanting to restart old arguments and purely IMVHO, doing anything that ended up caught by BN66 falls under the "Taking the piss" category.

[BrilloPad]

Pay your CT, Employers NI and VAT on time.
Submit your annual accounts and company return on time.
Don't take the piss.

Alot of people have done all that and still got grief. In particular there are now 2 people from the bn66 thread who have had the baliffs sent round.

HMRC presume guilt!

[Bob Jones]

No I just want to know some tips on staying below the radar of HMRC so they don't come knocking or investigating. Me and just about every other poster on this site.

I am quite happy to consider writing an article on the subject - but it is so wide - I assume you are talking about those operating through their own company and outside IR35 - could you perhaps give me a scenario and I'll see what I can come up with .... those working through umbrellas are employees of the umbrella and it will be the umbrella that will be investgated not the employee - those operating through their own company and complying with the requirements of IR35 are very low risk ......

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Regards

Bob

[DaveB]

No I just want to know some tips on staying below the radar of HMRC so they don't come knocking or investigating. Me and just about every other poster on this site.

Pay your CT, Employers NI and VAT on time.
Submit your annual accounts and company return on time.
Don't take the piss.

[Bob Jones]

I think you might be getting a few calls from a few on here offering you a website re-design for a bit of free consultancy...

i know - it is prettty bad - but the advice it contains is sound ....

[Moscow Mule]

Bob http://www.internet-taxation.co.uk/

I think you might be getting a few calls from a few on here offering you a website re-design for a bit of free consultancy...

Good luck with it, regardless.

[KentPhilip]

Collection I can't - IR35 was something that I came across now and again - latterly my main area of expertise was the travel rules for employees http://www.contractoralliance.co.uk/...ctor_expenses/ although as an Inspector of Taxes I was trained in accounts investigation, law and practise and am a veteran of over 100 Commissioners meetings etc etc etc

Regards

Bob http://www.internet-taxation.co.uk/

No I just want to know some tips on staying below the radar of HMRC so they don't come knocking or investigating. Me and just about every other poster on this site.

[KentPhilip]

A lot of men think of relationships that way

You're a bad man

[expat]

Once a bailiff has been granted entry once then he subsequently allowed to force entry as many times as he wants.

A lot of men think of relationships that way

On every level they will tell you anything to make you pay up, do not believe them, check out your legal rights before this happens so you are in a position of strength should they ever arrive at your door.

Indeed, the other day the press reported that the baliffs caused a man to have a heart attack. He owed money for a speeding ticket, they turned up, told him that if he didn't pay at that point then they would come back with a locksmith(!) and then marched him to the cashpoint. At which point his (recently operated on) heart failed.

This is even AFTER the family told the courts about his medical condition, at which point the courts are not supposed to allow bailiffs to visit. Let alone give him all that baloney about the locksmith.

They really are the lowest of the low.

[dx4100]

yeah read this http://money.uk.msn.com/mortgages/mo...entid=12903468

A few hundred pound compensation for that!!!!

I would of took them to the cleaners!!!!!!!!

[Bob Jones]

You were an inspector of taxes eh? What can you tell us about IR35 investigation and collection from the dark side then?

Collection I can't - IR35 was something that I came across now and again - latterly my main area of expertise was the travel rules for employees http://www.contractoralliance.co.uk/...ctor_expenses/ although as an Inspector of Taxes I was trained in accounts investigation, law and practise and am a veteran of over 100 Commissioners meetings etc etc etc

Regards

Bob http://www.internet-taxation.co.uk/

[d000hg]

They will be told they are on private property and to leave immediately if they even set foot in my front garden

Private property doesn't mean you can legally prevent people entering your land... and unlike America you can't shoot people for 'looking like they were up to no good'.