Clocking on / off at client site

[BolshieBastard]

Yes course its legal.

However, unlike others, I do think its a pointer towards employment since this is, presumably, what the permies do. Not only that, its a further indication of control by the client which in turn points to IR35.

But, there isnt much you can do about it if the client says do it or walk. Except walk and you really dont want to lose income for such a trivial matter.

[moorfield]

Most IBs will give you some sort of remote access now (maybe even a CrackBerry if you're deemed worthy enough), so just pop a mail out before you start your morning ablutions. Problem solved.

[malvolio]

Thing is, if everyone has to do it, it's not D&C so immaterial in IR35 terms. If only contractors have to do it, you're clearly not employees then are you?

Yes it's irritating nonsense, but think positive - either way it helps your IR35 status.

[NotAllThere]

What a bunch of pillocks. They invest in a door swipe system, then they want to add to it by a semi-manual system based on sending emails. Wow, so hi-tech.

Smacks of nervous management. They've no idea what's going on, so invest time and enery controlling the tiny things they can comprehend. Confusing activity with productivity.

[Lazylobster]

Management have indicated that the door swipe system is not sufficient in it's logging for their needs, whatever they may be.

Don't think this will hold up for long, as most of us will simply "forget" to do etc. Also, what will my priority be first thing in the morning when I get in . . .

"Sorry mate, can't fix your trading system and know you are losing a few quid but, I have to send an email first. . . . "

LL

[Sockpuppet]

Have you thought about asking them why.

You think a clocking card is bad the staff here have to scan in and out using machines that read your hand biometrics.

Fortunately contractors are exempt. As we are from training etc.

[moorfield]

This sounds like some HR bull tulip to me.

[TykeMerc]

Perfectly legal.

Excessive and expensive and probably introduced because some unethical contractors and permies have been taking the p1$$ by getting mates to clock them in and out. Odds are it will be a temporary state of affairs.

These sorts of things are often introduced by a manager whose only concept of management is bums on seats (i.e. he/she is clueless), but as usual it's a case of do it or change contract.

[HermanDune]

Maybe they suspect the clever I.T. contractors have found a way to hack the clocking system.

[Sockpuppet]

Of course its legal.

I have to sign in and out of client co with a time on the fire register doesn't mean I am IR35 caught just means I don't want to die (given that this warehouse burnt down 3 years ago with 800 people to check - I'll pay the game on this one).

Ask them why they want to do this. If its for timekeeping tell them ok and send the e-mail from your mobile when you've buggered off.

[Lazylobster]

The client I contract for (Investment Bank) has a door swipe system in the office which, logs all entry / exit times.

There is now talk of each contractor having to send an email to a specified bank email address when arriving / departing the office.

Question is this, Is this legal ? As they already have these times on record.

Any advice ?

Cheers
LL