Reply to: help needed on submitting abreviated accounts online

[css_jay99]

It only says that if you tick the box to include that section.

There is no reason whatsoever to tick the box.

A few sections are included when you enter a figure in the associated box; this is not one of them. All those boxes you tickedunnecessarily - untick them.

Cheers, sorry i missed ur initial response.

You right, i must have mistakenly ticked the box. i was filling it out on an old laptop with adobe pro so takes a while to respond to anything. I have unticked the bit that shows P&L.

this kinda means that the only mandatory bits (well that shows up)to the notes are accounting policies, turnover, transact....directors and disclosures

cheers

css_jay99

[dude69]

that section which say pofit and loss account says 'the companies income an costs resulting in profit and loss'

thats essentially how you arrived at P&L figure so That could mean P&L calculations i would have thought

It only says that if you tick the box to include that section.

There is no reason whatsoever to tick the box.

A few sections are included when you enter a figure in the associated box; this is not one of them. All those boxes you tickedunnecessarily - untick them.

[dude69]

maybe someone who has filled the new PDF version will come along and fill us in (Intime! )

I have, and already answered your questions at 09:58, post #7 in this thread.

Perhaps you should read more carefully.

[css_jay99]

If you look down bottom of faqs on link from co hse front page there is some guidance there. Not fannying about with it personally, they are getting paper again.

PS Ta for mentioning this as my accounts due in couple weeks and had no idea they had screwed about with it, might have left it too late for mail given the strikes.

mine accounts is due in 6 days hence the need to go online route

I checked co hse guidlines but cant seem to find a mention anywhere and I am not paticularly ready to start reading Financial reporting standards just for that.

maybe someone who has filled the new PDF version will come along and fill us in (Intime! )

[xoggoth]

If you look down bottom of faqs on link from co hse front page there is some guidance there. Not fannying about with it personally, they are getting paper again.

PS Ta for mentioning this as my accounts due in couple weeks and had no idea they had screwed about with it, might have left it too late for mail given the strikes.

[css_jay99]

Do you mean the balance sheet? There's no P&L on the abbreviated accounts.

that section which say pofit and loss account says 'the companies income an costs resulting in profit and loss'

thats essentially how you arrived at P&L figure so That could mean P&L calculations i would have thought

[css_jay99]

It doesn't take very long, it's only a balance sheet with about 10 boxes in it.

About 15 minutes I reckon.

There's no reason for small companies to submit full accounts.

If they have just changed it resently then they should have provided more notes on what they want in their headed section of 'notes to accounts'

especially those below:-

(2) Transactions with directors -- what goes here?
(3) related party disclosures -- what goes here?

I presume the profit & loss part will just be pasting contents of P&L (excl divs) to tie in with Balance sheet resreves.

I am tempted to just put 'Not Applicable'

[dude69]

Blood 'ell they have changed it! You are right, no way to submit full accounts online. Last time I just converted my Word doc accounts to PDF and submitted them. If I now have to type all the figures again into a sodding template I may as well go back to post.

It doesn't take very long, it's only a balance sheet with about 10 boxes in it.

About 15 minutes I reckon.

There's no reason for small companies to submit full accounts.

[xoggoth]

Blood 'ell they have changed it! You are right, no way to submit full accounts online. Last time I just converted my Word doc accounts to PDF and submitted them. If I now have to type all the figures again into a sodding template I may as well go back to post. Government agencies exist only to waste our time.

[css_jay99]

I logged in yesterday to submit my version of full accounts.

The site only takes me as far as downloading the abbreviated accounts

template, nothin else. It seems to presume that I will initiate a submission via the pdf form.

I will call them now to see how the heck i get the uption to submit my own version of full accounts


css_jay99

[dude69]

Hi people,
I have just tried to submit full accounts online at companies house but looks like I cant do that because I have to use the abbreviated accounts PDF and submit that way.

So I decided to fill out the abbbreviated accounts PDF.

Couple of questions I need clariffication on relates to the Notes to account section:-

(1)Profit and Loss Account -- do i just paste content of my p&L in the pdf?

Do you mean the balance sheet? There's no P&L on the abbreviated accounts.

(2) Transactions with directors -- what goes here?

I put in something like the following:

The company has a loan from its Director, Mr. X, of no fixed date of repayment, of £252.62. The company made salary payments to Mr. X of £6,000. The company made contributions to Mr. X's pension of £6,000.

(3) related party disclosures -- what goes here?

left it blank.

Be aware that if you copy and paste any curly quotes from Office (' ") the pdf submission will not work, and will just give a cryptic error message about PDF2XML.

[Darren@UptonAccountants]

Abbrev Accounts

Abbreviated accounts can be filed online through the webfiling area on Companies House website....we've done this for a few companies, much more reliable than the post!

[xoggoth]

Abreviated accounts? Are you sure you have that right? I have always sent the full accounts as PDF.

[css_jay99]

Sorry for stating the obvious but these should really be directed to your accountant. That's what you're paying them for.

he is old school and never does anything online.

I already have the full acounts done ( thx to Darren@UptonAccountants as well) which I can post to them but decided at last minute to go via the companies house online PDF format which is why I am raising the question due to ambiguity and lack of adequate guidlines/notes from CA

css_jay99

[Pondlife]

Sorry for stating the obvious but these should really be directed to your accountant. That's what you're paying them for.