Reply to: IR35 BBC Radio 4 - MoneyBox

[ladymuck]

SFA

As I suspected

[BR14]

SFA

[ladymuck]

Having watched the Finance Bill Sub-Committee session shared above, I thought it was very interesting with some excellent points made.

My question is, what can the committee do / influence?

[PTP]

Start preparing your notes for a radio phone in on the reforms. LBC Wed 6pm

https://twitter.com/ClaerB/status/1232003900661780480

[SimonMac]

What scares me, is if any sane person listens to this and the previous HoL committee it’s a no brainier. What we don’t see is what HMRC say to ten HoL when presenting “the other view”

[Scruff]

It would get IPSE some new members...

[eek]

Well apparently it polled well with members. It was the evil CC who put the kybosh on it

Yep - it polled will with people that didn't look into the idea.

Anyone who spent 5 minutes looking at it could see the flaws (for it has many) and what the end result of those flaws would be (something that would make you no better off than inside IR35)..

[ladymuck]

IPSE are discussion Freelancer Limited Companies once again - let me think of the numbers of ways I can call that a blooming stupid idea...

Well apparently it polled well with members. It was the evil CC who put the kybosh on it

[SimonMac]

House of Lords from 15:15 today

parliament.tv
https://parliamentlive.tv/event/index/5633642f-f49...

Again, try this link

https://parliamentlive.tv/Event/Inde...3-c1b2b480b914

[eek]

House of Lords from 15:15 today

parliament.tv
https://parliamentlive.tv/event/index/5633642f-f49...

IPSE are discussion Freelancer Limited Companies once again - let me think of the numbers of ways I can call that a blooming stupid idea...

[Scruff]

House of Lords from 15:15 today

parliament.tv
https://parliamentlive.tv/event/index/5633642f-f49...

[eek]

Completely agree with you. I could perhaps entertain working paying more tax (even though it rankles re: Employee rights) but I will no longer be able to afford to stay in hotels. So, the movable/flexible work-force will cease. It is not a matter of 'biting the bullet' it just an economic fact I woud not be able to afford to stay over during the week. I am curious to know what this 2015 ruling was? It maybe I did not know it was any different!

Back in 2015 there was a move to remove expenses from limited company contractors - I defeated that* *using a survey conducted here and elsewhere) but HMRC kept the changes in part so expenses are only allowed if the contract is outside IR35 or you are working via an umbrella company and not subject to Supervision, Direction and Control..

* although IPSE argue it was them, I just go with what the senior HMRC policy civil servants I met tell me. I will leave you to look at IPSE's subsequent successes in fighting the 2017 public sector and 2020 private sector changes to judge how accurate IPSE's claims were.

[Lance]

You sure about that (the PSC bit, he is very pro IR35) I always thought he made it clear he was "old school" self employed

It might have been an assumption. I recall it but cannot reference it.

[SimonMac]

That’s because the presenter is pro IR35 even though he works through his own PSC.

You sure about that (the PSC bit, he is very pro IR35) I always thought he made it clear he was "old school" self employed

[ladymuck]

That’s because the presenter is pro IR35 even though he works through his own PSC.

He was surprisingly less vehement about his views this time around. He trotted out the party line, as expected.

Dave Chaplin did his best but it's hard in a 5 minute vox pop to get the issue across clearly.