Another farcical situation....

[GigiBronz]

words might change when it has to come in written...

[SimonMac]

It's not Client A's practices you have to worry about, it's consultancy C's as they are the contractors end client and are making the SDS determination.

If consultancy C are telling you how and when to engage with Client A and are checking up on performance of their "consultants" with Client A then you are on a sticky wicket.

I've never seen anyone from Consultancy C

[DaveB]

In fairness the working practices at Client A is pretty good, not perfect but good enough

It's not Client A's practices you have to worry about, it's consultancy C's as they are the contractors end client and are making the SDS determination.

If consultancy C are telling you how and when to engage with Client A and are checking up on performance of their "consultants" with Client A then you are on a sticky wicket.

[SimonMac]

If consultancy C tells all its contractors "You will work for Client A doing whatever they tell you to do, in the way they tell you to do it, until we tell you otherwise" then it starts sounding suspiciously like an inside gig anyway.

In fairness the working practices at Client A is pretty good, not perfect but good enough

[DaveB]

I am working for end Client A

Client A engages contractors through Consultancy B and C

Consultancy B uses Agents D

Agent D uses Agent E

Consultancy C use Agents Fx

There is a real risk that Consultancy C blankets everyone inside, where as Consultancy B does a role by role assessment and is determined outside.

So to me it seems farcical that two contractors can have job title, same working practices (as they come from the client not the consultancy) but have two different determinations.

I know this is a very niche case but it can't be that rare

If consultancy C tells all its contractors "You will work for Client A doing whatever they tell you to do, in the way they tell you to do it, until we tell you otherwise" then it starts sounding suspiciously like an inside gig anyway.

[BrilloPad]

What does ClientA say?

If A=HSBC then we can guess....

[LondonManc]

Grass em up, drag them down with you. HTHBIDI

[SimonMac]

In the fullness of time it will likely not be that niche, nor rare.



Fx ?

I'm not sure if they use one Agency or many like the other lot

[simes]

In the fullness of time it will likely not be that niche, nor rare.

Consultancy C use Agents Fx

Fx ?

[SimonMac]

I am working for end Client A

Client A engages contractors through Consultancy B and C

Consultancy B uses Agents D

Agent D uses Agent E

Consultancy C use Agents Fx

There is a real risk that Consultancy C blankets everyone inside, where as Consultancy B does a role by role assessment and is determined outside.

So to me it seems farcical that two contractors can have job title, same working practices (as they come from the client not the consultancy) but have two different determinations.

I know this is a very niche case but it can't be that rare