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Previously on "Take-homes up from April"

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  • FK1
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    It just a director exercise to get close to the big picture, not an accountant figures.

    Example C.
    Sales £40000 excl. VAT
    Salary £8,424
    Expenses £1,000

    Taxes
    PAYE £0
    Corporation Tax = £5,809.44 = (40,000.00 - 1,000.00 - 8,424) * 0.19*
    Dividends tax (on £30,576.00 - £5,809.44) = £1,450.54 = (£24,766.56 - (11,850.00 - 8,424.00 + 2000))) * 0.075*

    So taxes in total £7260 on £40000 sales while take home in that year £31740

    Example D.
    Sales £40000 excl. VAT
    Salary £20000
    Expenses £1,000

    Taxes
    PAYE £3,017.32 + £1,597.49. Net Wage £16,982.68.
    Corporation Tax = £3306.48 = (40,000.00 - 1,000.00 - 20,000 - 1,597.49) * 0.19*
    Dividends tax (on £14,096.00) = £907.20 = (£14,096.00 - 2000))) * 0.075*

    So taxes in total £8828 on £40000 sales while take home in that year £30171

    The tax loss for £20K option salary seems to be £1568. Still like an accountancy fee
    OK. I made mistakes for sure but get the picture.

    I have the second shareholder with its own income so will continue to figure out my salary.
    But yes the recommended £8,424 or £11,850 seems to be correct advice.

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  • FK1
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    Originally posted by craigy1874 View Post
    It's great fun advising English and Scottish clients from this year

    Thankfully for most contractor models of low salary and dividends, it won't make too much of a difference.
    It is declared that
    Option 1 £8,424
    Option 2 £11,850
    are the most tax efficient salary and then dividends.

    Some reality check examples I am trying to calculate (that could be mistaken!)

    Example A.
    Sales £80000 excl. VAT
    Salary £8,424
    Expenses £5,000

    Taxes
    PAYE £0
    Dividends tax (on £37,926.00) = £2,437.5 = (3.160.50 * 12 - (11,850.00 - 8,424.00 + 2000))) * 0.075
    Corporation Tax = £12,649.44 = (80,000.00 - 5,000.00 - 8,424) * 0.19

    So taxes in total £15,086.94 on £80000 sales while take home in that year £46,350.

    Example B
    Sales £80000 excl. VAT
    Salary £20,000
    Expenses £5,000

    Taxes
    PAYE £3,017.32 + £1,597.49. Net Wage £16,982.68.
    Dividends tax (on £26,350.00) = £1569.3 = (26,350.00 - (11,850.00 - 8,424.00 + 2000))) * 0.075
    Corporation Tax = £10,146.48 = (80,000.00 - 5,000.00 - 20,000 - 1,597.49) * 0.19

    Taxes in total £16330.59 on £80000 sales while take home in that year £43,332.68

    The difference between paying 8K and 20K salaries is £1,244 in tax on £80K.
    I.e. if want £20K salary then pay £1,244 more in tax. A lot? Ok, it is the same an accountant fee

    Doing that calculation for twice less sales...
    Last edited by FK1; 24 March 2018, 18:17.

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  • craigy1874
    replied
    It's great fun advising English and Scottish clients from this year

    Thankfully for most contractor models of low salary and dividends, it won't make too much of a difference.

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  • Batcher
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    Originally posted by Wijay@WISAccountancy View Post
    No Changes to Corp tax rates. If you live in Scotland - Your tax rates way different.
    Higher tax band is £44,274.

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  • Wijay@WISAccountancy
    replied
    Originally posted by PerfectStorm View Post
    https://www.contractoruk.com/news/00...allowance.html

    As outlined, even though the dividend allowance is going down, the other allowances/bands are moving up.

    Isn't there a new corporation tax kicking in as well?

    A contractor bonus from the chancellor
    No Changes to Corp tax rates. If you live in Scotland - Your tax rates way different.
    Higher tax band is £44,274.

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  • blacjac
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    Originally posted by PerfectStorm View Post
    .

    Isn't there a new corporation tax kicking in as well?
    Not this year

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  • DolanContractorGroup
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    Corporation tax remains at 19% from 1st April 2018.

    The example is effectively treating the flat rate scheme, still in the 1% discount phase as a like for like comparative (So not effectively a second year).

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  • northernladuk
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    Therefore, Dan’s take-home pay (after tax and NI) is £52, 591.49 (salary and dividends after tax).
    Shum Mishtake shurly

    What is 'Take-Home Pay'

    Take-home pay is the net amount of income received after the deduction of taxes, benefits, and voluntary contributions from a paycheck. It is the difference between the gross income less all deductions. Deductions include federal, state and local income tax, Social Security and Medicare contributions, retirement account contributions, and medical, dental and other insurance premiums. The net amount or take-home pay is what the employee receives.
    American flavoured but gives you the essence.

    Take Home Pay doesn't include dividends.

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  • barrydidit
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    Dan's flat rate surplus remains at £1,120 in the second year so i'm not sure those numbers are accurate.

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  • PerfectStorm
    started a topic Take-homes up from April

    Take-homes up from April

    https://www.contractoruk.com/news/00...allowance.html

    As outlined, even though the dividend allowance is going down, the other allowances/bands are moving up.

    Isn't there a new corporation tax kicking in as well?

    A contractor bonus from the chancellor

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