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Originally posted by Jigga View PostI would be working from NL 3 days a week - 2 days from London office.
5 days a month from Belgium. Only until April. and i'll be hotel hopping/AirBNB.
With that - I think i should be able to stick to just pay UK taxes.
If that was true I'd chose IoM to pay my minimal tax in this year, what can go wrong with an IoM-based tax solution?
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A1 or E101
A1 or E101 as it was called earlier should be your main subject to concentrate on.
I worked with my own UK Ltd company in Belgium a few years ago. My accountant set up my whole company for me knowing I would be concentrating on the European construction sector.
After applying for E101s, setting up and paying all my insurance, public liability, firms liability (£896 for the year), I then headed to Belgium with 4 carpenters to carry out the work.
6 weeks later Newcastle HRMC informed me I would not be receiving the E101s as my firm had not previously traded in Uk.
As it normally takes 6 weeks before you receive your first payment in Belgium my money was then seized by the Belgian at hours ties, Belgian tax, insurance, pension...you name it, was then deducted (super high rates), leaving me with a super high loss. Accommodation, travel flights, ferries for 2 cars, subsistence for the guys plus wages on a weekly basis, plus Ltd company start up cost, accountant costs getting the guys back to UK. Total loss = £11800.
Make sure your A1 or E101 is in order first. Limos a take no excuces or prisoners.
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Originally posted by Jigga View PostI would be working from NL 3 days a week - 2 days from London office.
5 days a month from Belgium. Only until April. and i'll be hotel hopping/AirBNB.
With that - I think i should be able to stick to just pay UK taxes.
There is no 183 day whatever - it's a figment of posters imagination
If you work in NL 3 days a week you start paying Dutch tax right away from day 1*
*But only if you let them know
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Originally posted by doconline View PostI am not 100% sure on this, but after reading up about contracting in the Netherlands before I would try and avoid that as an option if I were you. They do not recognise UK Ltd companies, so you will need to go through an umbrella / payroll type setup. You can get a 30% ruling, but you will pay a lot of tax / social security if you are based in the Netherlands. Also sounds a bit of a logistical nightmare, you are working for a Belgian company, out of NL, whilst primarily residing in the UK? Unless you can negotiate a large bump to move to NL, I would tell them remote in the UK or not at all.
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Originally posted by clearedforlanding View PostAnd if you do, don't make my mistake an not deregister at the tax office. But really, NL & BE are balls tax wise. I'd jump, if things have been rough so far, as doc says this IS going to be a nightmare.
5 days a month from Belgium. Only until April. and i'll be hotel hopping/AirBNB.
With that - I think i should be able to stick to just pay UK taxes.
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Originally posted by doconline View PostI am not 100% sure on this, but after reading up about contracting in the Netherlands before I would try and avoid that as an option if I were you. They do not recognise UK Ltd companies, so you will need to go through an umbrella / payroll type setup. You can get a 30% ruling, but you will pay a lot of tax / social security if you are based in the Netherlands. Also sounds a bit of a logistical nightmare, you are working for a Belgian company, out of NL, whilst primarily residing in the UK? Unless you can negotiate a large bump to move to NL, I would tell them remote in the UK or not at all.
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Originally posted by Jigga View PostSummary:
My agency screwed up - they never filed for a LIMOSA and they were not aware of the 183day rule. As a result I have asked to be relocated to work from the UK (remote) for the Belgium Client. Additionally, it's safe to say I wont be extending past April.
They offered to relocate me to the Netherlands until April. Ideas around this in case the UK isnt an option the client will support.
J
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Originally posted by Jigga View PostSummary:
My agency screwed up - they never filed for a LIMOSA and they were not aware of the 183day rule. As a result I have asked to be relocated to work from the UK (remote) for the Belgium Client. Additionally, it's safe to say I wont be extending past April.
They offered to relocate me to the Netherlands until April. Ideas around this in case the UK isnt an option the client will support.
J
I would also like to add i've lost almost 4k in fee's - had an apartment - had to give it up - they took my deposit and first months rent and fee's. Because it was the agencies screw up - should i be asking them to pay that back to me?
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Originally posted by CoolCat View PostThere are a number of bars in Brussels heavily frequented by British IT contractors, and their ex pat friends working for various EU bodies and NATO etc.
Its a case of tracking some of these down and swapping notes.
My agency screwed up - they never filed for a LIMOSA and they were not aware of the 183day rule. As a result I have asked to be relocated to work from the UK (remote) for the Belgium Client. Additionally, it's safe to say I wont be extending past April.
They offered to relocate me to the Netherlands until April. Ideas around this in case the UK isnt an option the client will support.
J
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There are a number of bars in Brussels heavily frequented by British IT contractors, and their ex pat friends working for various EU bodies and NATO etc.
Its a case of tracking some of these down and swapping notes.
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Originally posted by Lance View Postmaybe the mods ought to delete the dangerous tripe........
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