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Are you calling us employees????Originally posted by northernladuk View PostShould be but with current level of fines and nightmare legislation around it you can forgive a client for doing their own diligence. I certainly would if it was the other way around.
Also all the guidance is aimed at employers who employs staff under a contract of employment, service or apprenticeship. Am sure a client will believe you are the middle one so they are obliged to check.


At what size of supplier does the onus change? If there are two, three, four consultants or what?
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I amended my post to include the answer to this sorry...and I bet they do. If not have a contract in place indemnifying them if that's even possible.Originally posted by LondonManc View PostI'd agree if it were a sole trader that I'm taking on but why should any limited company be different to any other? Would they ask Accenture or EY for personal details of all consultants coming on site? I doubt it.
But that said, the wording is very woolly and on that basis alone they should carry the checks out to be on the safe side IMO.Last edited by northernladuk; 5 May 2016, 15:43.
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I'd agree if it were a sole trader that I'm taking on but why should any limited company be different to any other? Would they ask Accenture or EY for personal details of all consultants coming on site? I doubt it.Originally posted by northernladuk View PostShould be but with current level of fines and nightmare legislation around it you can forgive a client for doing their own diligence. I certainly would if it was the other way around.
Also all the guidance is aimed at employers who employs staff under a contract of employment, service or apprenticeship. Am sure a client will believe you are the middle one so they are obliged to check.
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Should be but with current level of fines and nightmare legislation around it you can forgive a client for doing their own diligence. I certainly would if it was the other way around.Originally posted by LondonManc View PostWhat he said.
Then act like a dick
In all seriousness, when I go direct, I prefer being engaged as per any other consultancy supplier rather than as a person - the onus should be on my ltd co to ensure that its workers are eligible to work in the UK.
Also all the guidance is aimed at employers who employs staff under a contract of employment, service or apprenticeship. Am sure a client will believe you are the middle one so they are obliged to check.Last edited by northernladuk; 5 May 2016, 15:38.
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What he said.Originally posted by northernladuk View PostAsk them what documentation. I wouldn't put it past them mixingup some right to work legislation with HMRC. IMO the devil is in the detail here soon wouldn't act like a dick at the first opportunity. Ask them exactly what for and take it from there.
Then act like a dick
In all seriousness, when I go direct, I prefer being engaged as per any other consultancy supplier rather than as a person - the onus should be on my ltd co to ensure that its workers are eligible to work in the UK.
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Your call then. I can't think giving your DoB in response to some misguided HR question will make a difference to your IR35 status. I'd be interested, both in here and in your shoes why though.
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Ask them what documentation. I wouldn't put it past them mixingup some right to work legislation with HMRC. IMO the devil is in the detail here soon wouldn't act like a dick at the first opportunity. Ask them exactly what for and take it from there.
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Contract was reviewed and insurance in place. I just wondered if the reporting remit was expanded or if this is HR being dense.
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Alarm bells - get your contract checked for IR35 or at the very least advise that you are operating a supplier/client relationship.Originally posted by ZARDOZ View PostClient HR have requested my DOB for HMRC documentation. I knew there were new requirements for agencies but I am direct with the client.
Is it now a requirement for direct contractors or is Client co HR misinformed?
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DOB for HMRC
Client HR have requested my DOB for HMRC documentation. I knew there were new requirements for agencies but I am direct with the client.
Is it now a requirement for direct contractors or is Client co HR misinformed?Tags: None
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