Reply to: Client wants to send me abroad...

[NibblyPig]

Thanks folks.

[TykeMerc]

Hah! Another sure sign!

For IR35, the only thing I'd avoid is getting expenses paid through the client's expenses system. They pick up bills direct - anything else you add to your invoice and add VAT.

WHS.

I wouldn't be overly concerned about IR35 for this short role, NAT's advice is sound.

[NotAllThere]

Not sure what a sockie is?!...

Hah! Another sure sign!

For IR35, the only thing I'd avoid is getting expenses paid through the client's expenses system. They pick up bills direct - anything else you add to your invoice and add VAT.

[northernladuk]

you should have this as your signature.

Have you nothing better to do?

Brillo is getting heckled by one of his own sockies!!!!

[NibblyPig]

It's quite hard to gauge how much to be scared of IR35. My contract is airtight and my working practices are (I think) reasonably satisfactory, but obviously I have no real concrete answers on whether I'm OK or not due to the whole touchy feely approach to deciding if someone is in or out.

I recently joined IPSE so hopefully overall risk is minimal even if investigated. I just don't know how afraid to be, so I am erring on the side of caution.

[MercladUK]

http://forums.contractoruk.com/gener...s-revoked.html

Coming to an end so soon after your contract extension?

I call sockie.

you should have this as your signature.

Have you nothing better to do?

[Contreras]

This whole IR35 thing is really pissing me off, what kind of permie does a 2 week stint abroad with no prior training and then is kicked out?

Not sure why you're fretting about IR35. - Defined deliverables? Specialist skills? Unsupervised? Expectation only to deliver against a schedule? - All pointers to being clearly outside.

[NibblyPig]

even if it was IR35 caught, if it's only a 2 week contract you could do some clever accounting and end up more or less unscathed (pensions etc)

So long as they don't make me fork out £1000s for the plane ticket and hotel costs for central Tokyo or whatever.

But yeah, finding it hard to work out how to do this legally. Thanks HMRC.

Maybe I can give IPSE a call for some advice? Anyone ever do that?

[pr1]

even if it was IR35 caught, if it's only a 2 week contract you could do some clever accounting and end up more or less unscathed (pensions etc)

[NibblyPig]

Not sure what a sockie is?!

They renewed me for 1 month due to the project release date being pushed back a month.

Then they came to me and said we have another project that is tangentially related but standalone that requires sending someone overseas for 2 weeks to do some data migration. They asked if I'd be interested in doing that since their permie guys one has just had a baby and the other is needed to oversee the launch.

It'd be a new contract rather than an extension, I'd take a week off in between.

This whole IR35 thing is really pissing me off, what kind of permie does a 2 week stint abroad with no prior training and then is kicked out?

[Bozwell]

http://forums.contractoruk.com/gener...s-revoked.html

Coming to an end so soon after your contract extension?

I call sockie.

How do you know he didn't have a 1 month extension and is now thinking about what he'll be doing in September?

[BrilloPad]

http://forums.contractoruk.com/gener...s-revoked.html

Coming to an end so soon after your contract extension?

I call sockie.

[fidot]

It's all up for negotiation

It's all up for negotiation. Don't forget to include travelling time and all travelling costs and additional fees to cover the extra time away from home.

[NibblyPig]

Looks like they want to organise it themselves (can't blame them, they probably have an account being a huge company), but this looks like an IR35 red flag, cos I should be paying myself and expensing it. Not sure my company accounts have enough cash to pay for business class to the other side of the world...

[NotAllThere]

There is no normal.

I would expect them to pay for the flights and hotel (and anything charged against the room), + add on (e.g) £50 a day on to my daily rate to cover incidentals.