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  • Alan @ BroomeAffinity
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    Originally posted by drumtochty View Post
    You cannot work out a day rate from either the abridged accounts in companies house or the full accounts delivered to HMRC.
    This is very true. But, if you know your way around a set of accounts you can make a fairly good stab at the company's profit - which may or may not give you the info you need. For example, you can easily see how much profit has been retained and also what the company's current liabilities are. If you make a reasonable assumption around what they owe in VAT (a lot of guesswork required, I'll concede) you can then get a rough idea of outstanding CT. From that, again requires an assumption that it is only CT relating to the year in question that is outstanding and no in-year payments have been made, you can get a rough stab at the profit.

    If the company is showing an increase in bank balances, it may be an indicator that the shareholders are only divvi-ing up to the basic rate threshold. You can then make an educated guess at how much this would be based on the shareholder information.

    Cross reference these two pieces of "information" and you could be between 0% and 100% accurate. But its an awful lot of work and an awful lot of what-ifs just because you're essentially nosy.

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  • TheFaQQer
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    Originally posted by JRCT View Post
    As a contractor, what would you actually use this for?

    I can imagine if you were taking a contract with a small company, you'd want to check them out. Particularly if you didn't know much about them.

    I can imagine the same for an agency. Other than that, is there any other reason.
    You can easily see any inter-company ownership etc.

    I have a watch list for some guys I used to work with, just so I can see how badly their company is doing, as wish them every failure life could throw at them all.

    I mainly use Duedil for when someone posts "I've just been told about a magic company that will save you 90% of your income...", just to see if they exist. I've also used some of the data on there to complain to the ASA about some websites out there (eg. "we've got 30 years experience" for the umbrella that set up last Friday)

    I should get out more, really.

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  • drumtochty
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    You cannot work out a day rate from either the abridged accounts in companies house or the full accounts delivered to HMRC.
    Last edited by drumtochty; 11 November 2014, 22:19.

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  • JRCT
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    As a contractor, what would you actually use this for?

    I can imagine if you were taking a contract with a small company, you'd want to check them out. Particularly if you didn't know much about them.

    I can imagine the same for an agency. Other than that, is there any other reason.

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  • JonNorris@Crunch
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    +1 for Duedil. No idea if it gives the most raw access, but it sure is pretty.

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  • slice16
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    I use DueDil which is pretty awesome! (I haven't had to pay yet, as everything I need to know is in there).

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  • PerfectStorm
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    Thanks all - had a look but as most of our sort are classed as small companies the full accounts info is exempt from publiation.

    I wondered if there may have been a roundabout way to work out rough day rates for my network.... I guess not?

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  • moggy
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    Try Duedil gives a good insight into a company, and its free. Of course if you want more detailed information i think you can also pay.

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  • PerfectStorm
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    Blimey, it will too:

    Free Companies House data to boost UK economy

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  • PurpleGorilla
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    Originally posted by kingcook View Post
    It'll all be free from April 2015.
    Really? Oh man? That's going to be sweet!

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  • kingcook
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    Originally posted by Alan @ BroomeAffinity View Post
    Most seem to be subscription based. Companies House direct is probably your best bet for light use.
    It'll all be free from April 2015.

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  • Alan @ BroomeAffinity
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    Most seem to be subscription based. Companies House direct is probably your best bet for light use.

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  • mudskipper
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    Originally posted by PerfectStorm View Post
    Hello

    Obviously companies house publish the accounts of limited companies via various outlets. I thought it might be interesting to read... who offers the best deal on accessing them?
    You can get brief account summaries from companycheck

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  • malvolio
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    Originally posted by PerfectStorm View Post
    Hello

    Obviously companies house publish the accounts of limited companies via various outlets. I thought it might be interesting to read... who offers the best deal on accessing them?
    Ermm... Companies House?

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  • PerfectStorm
    started a topic Cheapest Companies House accounts data?

    Cheapest Companies House accounts data?

    Hello

    Obviously companies house publish the accounts of limited companies via various outlets. I thought it might be interesting to read... who offers the best deal on accessing them?

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