Reply to: i am sure i can claim back subsistence

[Mordac]

Well Fridge does the brollie happen to have a 4 in its name?

What I wouldn't give to see the back of those Dubya ads on the tube...

[autodial]

[QUOTE=malvolio]I think we already suggested that...

Time to name and shame

Well Fridge does the brollie happen to have a 4 in its name?

[malvolio]

I think we already suggested that...

Time to name and shame - it is clear these people (whoever they are) need a good smacking. And you don't have to be the victim to lodge a complaint with the ASA, merely someone who finds an advert misleading.

[DaveB]

I phoned the brollie and was told again that I dont need to have receipts? The guy said they had obtained Revenue approval for this and pointed me to their website. I dont trust what these people are saying so have parted company. Iam setting up my own company and getting an accountant now.Thank god I only used these people for a couple of months.

If they are making the same claims on their website, and if it's who I'm thinking of then they are, report them to the Advertising Standards Agency. They treat the content of web pages, especially the front page of a site, as an advert and police it accordingly.

[Lucifer Box]

I phoned the brollie and was told again that I dont need to have receipts? The guy said they had obtained Revenue approval for this and pointed me to their website. I dont trust what these people are saying so have parted company. Iam setting up my own company and getting an accountant now.Thank god I only used these people for a couple of months.

Tell you what, why not drop HMRC a line and let them know what the brolly is saying to its customers? It will be amusing to see the flood of first time posters on hear in a year or two's time asking for what to do as they have had their expenses disallowed and been presented with a tax bill plus interest and fines.

[fridge]

I hope he posts the outcome of the phonecall to his brolly!

I'd like to see how they square that circle - They say that it is OK to claim without reciepts, which we know is not.

I phoned the brollie and was told again that I dont need to have receipts? The guy said they had obtained Revenue approval for this and pointed me to their website. I dont trust what these people are saying so have parted company. Iam setting up my own company and getting an accountant now.Thank god I only used these people for a couple of months.

[Mordac]

I hope he posts the outcome of the phonecall to his brolly!

I'd like to see how they square that circle - They say that it is OK to claim without reciepts, which we know is not.

But as we've already (hopefully) established, unless he can prove they gave him such advice (and he'd have to have at least an email explicitly stating this) he wouldn't be able to use the "advice" as a defence, since as Lucifer said before, what court would believe that someone could be so naive as to believe they could claim for an expense which was not actually incurred?

[BoredBloke]

I hope he posts the outcome of the phonecall to his brolly!

I'd like to see how they square that circle - They say that it is OK to claim without reciepts, which we know is not.

[Lucifer Box]

Fridge, how far back does your fraudulent activity date? If it's only back to tax year 2005/06 you can just send in a notice of correction, pay the extra tax and interest, and not have to worry about penalties.

[fridge]

Oh boy am I going to be in doo doo then. My brollie has told me I can claim for all sorts of things from petrol, subsistence, meals etc..... that Ive never actualy spent the money on and havent got any till receipts.Looks like there will be an interesting phone call on Monday chaps so watch this space

[autodial]

The answers given on this subject are correct and pretty clear. If you try to claim things you have not spent, then Hector will drop on you from a great height.

What I cannot understand is why nobody has taken action against any of these companies who advise people to act in a faudulant way. I was contacted by one many years ago and was told that you can claim for things you have not spent due to their dispensation. Out and out fraud! The IR are aware of what these companies are up to, so why don't they take action either by removing their dispensation or taking them to court for promoting tax evasion.

What will happen is they will simply turn their attention to the little guy some years down the line, hit them with a massive tax bill and ruin them for simply doing what their brolly told them they could do.

Dead right there Tony, I couldnt have said better myself. Its not just the brollies that are doing it but composites as well as its the only way they can "pay" the guy his earnings, its not expenses at all but instead what hes already worked bloody hard for in the first place. Hes not getting expenses at all is he? hes actually getting his the money hes been paid for the work hes done but the brollies calling it '......expenses.....' !!!!!! My arse as the man said.

[BoredBloke]

The answers given on this subject are correct and pretty clear. If you try to claim things you have not spent, then Hector will drop on you from a great height.

What I cannot understand is why nobody has taken action against any of these companies who advise people to act in a faudulant way. I was contacted by one many years ago and was told that you can claim for things you have not spent due to their dispensation. Out and out fraud! The IR are aware of what these companies are up to, so why don't they take action either by removing their dispensation or taking them to court for promoting tax evasion.

What will happen is they will simply turn their attention to the little guy some years down the line, hit them with a massive tax bill and ruin them for simply doing what their brolly told them they could do.

[fridge]

Is the answer.

Should this be in an FAQ ?

agreed.

[M_B]

Claim for anything the brollie tells you to if they have a REAL dispensation and youve actually had the expense and can prove it with hard evidnece.

Is the answer.

Should this be in an FAQ ?

[autodial]

My accountant says that if you havent actually had the expense in the first place you cant claim it, and you still have to prove you had the expense otherwise you will end up having to pay the tax and nat insurance on it. These brollies and composite sales people dont know the first thing about tax what you can claim for expenses, all they THINK they know is that the brollie dont have to have the evidence, but YOU do!
Claim for anything the brollie tells you to if they have a REAL dispensation and youve actually had the expense and can prove it with hard evidnece.I doubt that any brollie has a real and honestly proven dispensation from the IR cos the IR probably dont know there dealing with a brollie in the first place.They are all trying to undercut each other with ridiculous claims of dispensations which i guess is the magic word for drawing in the punters.